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The Blow Mold Expert

Where to buy basic controllers?

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I'm looking for somewhere that sells controllers with basic movements (chasing, blinking, etc.). I don't plan to do anything fancy, just use them on blow molds.   I would prefer it to be somewhere I can buy them in store (Lowe's, home Depot, Walmart, etc.) so I don't have to buy it online and pay for shipping costs.  Are these things available online only? I'm know more advanced controllers probably are, but these one action controllers seem like things that would be sold in stores. Any ideas? And how much is the basic cost?

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qberg    115

I haven't seen anything in the stores expect the more expensive Mr Christmas type models that help put some action to music.

 

For blowmolds, I would recommend keeping your eye out for LOR controllers.  Pick em up used for half what it costs new.  I use my LOR for Halloween pumpkin blowmolds....with the controller you can do a really good candle flicker look.  With 16 channels I have them all sequenced off each other so the whole yard isn't flickering to the same beat.  Another advantage is you can program chase, blink, whatever....don't like it....change it.  You are not stuck with it.

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3 hours ago, qberg said:

I haven't seen anything in the stores expect the more expensive Mr Christmas type models that help put some action to music.

 

For blowmolds, I would recommend keeping your eye out for LOR controllers.  Pick em up used for half what it costs new.  I use my LOR for Halloween pumpkin blowmolds....with the controller you can do a really good candle flicker look.  With 16 channels I have them all sequenced off each other so the whole yard isn't flickering to the same beat.  Another advantage is you can program chase, blink, whatever....don't like it....change it.  You are not stuck with it.

Thank you for the info.  I have been doing blow molds for a long time but haven't animated the lights before. I have a few questions about the controllers you mentioned.  If I plug a strand of lights into a controller, will I be able to make the individual strand of bulbs chase or will the program treat the entire strand as one item?  And what's the situation with extension cords on controllers? First of all does that work at all? Second of all if so will I get to select a pattern for each individual outlet on the cord or will it treat all three outlets on the cord as one item?  Also, do even the basic ones require a computer program? If so which one would be best? Sorry I'm old school my extent of knowledge is what blow molds look best with a certain wattage :lol:

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Bit of an update. I was just on LOR's website and it was very helpful.  Here is my basic understanding.  You can select which lights on a strand light and program the individual strand to chase, etc.  I also believe that you don't need extension cords as the LOR controllers act as them (eg  three separate center controllers each running to 16 smaller 4-16 channel controllers. Can anyone answer questions from my above response or confirm these conclusions? Thanks in advance.

 

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9 hours ago, The Blow Mold Expert said:

will I be able to make the individual strand of bulbs chase or will the program treat the entire strand as one item

one item.  You can not plug a strand of 50 bulbs into one LOR channel and make them chase.  You could plug 1 bulb into each 16 channels and make them chase.

 

9 hours ago, The Blow Mold Expert said:

extension cords on controllers? First of all does that work at all?

yes...the outlet from the lor controller is just like a female plug on an extension cord.  

 

9 hours ago, The Blow Mold Expert said:

so will I get to select a pattern for each individual outlet on the cord or will it treat all three outlets on the cord as one item?

I am confused on this question...there are 16 plugs (channels) coming out of the LOR box.  Think of the LOR box as 16 light switches inside, each with their own cord coming out.  If you had 16 hands you could flip em on and off however you desire to make a pattern.  Also, those switches are dimmers so if you have a blowmold that is too bright, you just run it at a lower % to dim.

 

10 hours ago, The Blow Mold Expert said:

do even the basic ones require a computer program

yes the CTB16PC models are the residential models and cheapest.  A computer is required, I have a cheap laptop from a pawn shop that runs my shows.  The LOR program is pretty straight forward, just color in the blocks when you want that specific channel to turn on, blink, shimmer, fade, etc. 

 

9 hours ago, The Blow Mold Expert said:

You can select which lights on a strand light and program the individual strand to chase, etc.  I also believe that you don't need extension cords as the LOR controllers act as them (eg  three separate center controllers each running to 16 smaller 4-16 channel controllers.

Most likely you are going to need extension cords to run from the controller to your display item.  search zip cord or SPT cord and vampire plugs to make your own....very easy.  YouTube "how to light o rama" and you will get a lot of basic tutorials and overviews to better understand it.

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23 minutes ago, qberg said:

one item.  You can not plug a strand of 50 bulbs into one LOR channel and make them chase.  You could plug 1 bulb into each 16 channels and make them chase.

 

yes...the outlet from the lor controller is just like a female plug on an extension cord.  

 

I am confused on this question...there are 16 plugs (channels) coming out of the LOR box.  Think of the LOR box as 16 light switches inside, each with their own cord coming out.  If you had 16 hands you could flip em on and off however you desire to make a pattern.  Also, those switches are dimmers so if you have a blowmold that is too bright, you just run it at a lower % to dim.

 

yes the CTB16PC models are the residential models and cheapest.  A computer is required, I have a cheap laptop from a pawn shop that runs my shows.  The LOR program is pretty straight forward, just color in the blocks when you want that specific channel to turn on, blink, shimmer, fade, etc. 

 

Most likely you are going to need extension cords to run from the controller to your display item.  search zip cord or SPT cord and vampire plugs to make your own....very easy.  YouTube "how to light o rama" and you will get a lot of basic tutorials and overviews to better understand it.

Thank you very much that answers about all my questions! :) But I've seen some very advanced LOR shows that look like they require 7 or 8 16 channel LOR controllers.  I've unfortunately just discovered the cheapest one I can find new is $300 dollars.  Does this mean that for a heavily computerised show you're looking at a 2100 or 2400 dollar investment? If so is there somewhere to get them cheaper? If not is there a control by LOR or another brand that has 50+ channels on one controller that would be a better investment when it comes to value on the dollar? Thanks I'm sorry I'm so old school :D

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yeah, elaborate setups will get expensive as you get into multi-color, zones, etc.  Plan it out and decide how many channels you would like to do, then tailor that with how much you can afford.  I started with 2x LOR controllers and have grown into 9 over 5 years.   Last year I drifted off into RGB, 3,000 RGBs took the place of a couple controllers....but RGB is more expensive and much more intensive to program.

You said you were looking to light blowmolds....I run my Halloween display on 3x controllers for all the jack-o-lanterns, house items  and lightning  http://www.wowlights.com/ProductDetail.asp?Category=31&Product=274

Where to buy them cheaper?....watch this forum and ebay and pick them up used.  I am actually just finishing updating / testing 7 controllers and will be posting them tonight or tomorrow for sale on here.  There are 5 or 6 up on ebay right now and a couple are in Canada!

 

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2 minutes ago, qberg said:

yeah, elaborate setups will get expensive as you get into multi-color, zones, etc.  Plan it out and decide how many channels you would like to do, then tailor that with how much you can afford.  I started with 2x LOR controllers and have grown into 9 over 5 years.   Last year I drifted off into RGB, 3,000 RGBs took the place of a couple controllers....but RGB is more expensive and much more intensive to program.

You said you were looking to light blowmolds....I run my Halloween display on 3x controllers for all the jack-o-lanterns, house items  and lightning  http://www.wowlights.com/ProductDetail.asp?Category=31&Product=274

Where to buy them cheaper?....watch this forum and ebay and pick them up used.  I am actually just finishing updating / testing 7 controllers and will be posting them tonight or tomorrow for sale on here.  There is 5 or 6 up on ebay right now.  

 

Thanks so much for the help :)

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