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I am currently in the process of beefing up the power at my house to adequetely power my display. The problem I have is that the most economical choice for placement of the circuit panel is nearly 300 ft from the house. So that means I would have to go out that distance each day to turn on the lights and again to turn them off. Additionally, I like the idea of a timer to turn the lights on and off at the same time each day, so that 1)I dont have to do it manually each day and 2) the lights go on/off even if I am not physically able to be there. I am looking at 18 circuits/outlets at 20 amps each. Is there such a thing as a timer that could be in the area of the circuit box, go from the circuit box to the timer, then out to the outlets? The good news is that the power company was happy to visit with me and they will be supplying 800amps of additional power with the minimal cost of a stand to mount the meter. After the meter, I am on my own, but I expected that. I appreciate any help!!

Christian Duncan

Indianapolis, IN

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You could probably get your electrician to rig up some type of a relayed timer that will do what you want. I can not tell you how to do it, other than it can be done.

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Light-O-Rama!

Or you could have a main cut-off to the remote panel installed in the house somewhere convenient. (Admittedly, this would only solve the problem of having to go out to the remote panel but not the timing issue.)

Or did I miss something?

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FWIW... One way; IF the power to this lightingpanelis fed from your house (meter); isto install a high current power contactor (or 2) in a J-box bythe main panel (where your branch circuit feed originates from) controlled by a 110 volt programmable timerthat switches the coil(s) on and off thus the power to your lights. Such a beast could be found as surplus on Ebay. Depending on the number and size of cables you are going to run you coulduse crimp on lugs, high current terminal strips, etc. to terminate thefeed wires in the J-box.

IF the service drop is at the lighting panel you could look at using a remoteX-10 module controlled by a programmable console located in your house (or LOR) if you set up for it, just make sure the X-10 module and the control console are on the same phase.

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WOW... hey guys, he said this is a remote 800 amp new service panel with it's own meter. He has 18-20amp circuits...

If you want to really fire up the whole panel with one timer, the only company I can think of is InterMatic (if they are still in business)

Hey look they are; http://www.intermatic.com/

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I have Internatic timers

Right now I have 3 hooked up, each handles (2) 20a circuits

So I have 6 circuits that turn off & on automatically

This was all designed pre-LOR

Now I may add a plug on the feed end of the timers to tie themt o a LOR channel

This way I can turn all my blow molds (I think) off &on at the same time

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what do you think of the possibility of a sheetmetal box with 6 3-pole contactorsthat are energized by a timer (like a pool pump timer at menards). That would interupt 19 legs of power and you could add more contactors with a big enough box to do more circuits.

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I agree with RedNeckChristmas. The way to go would be Intermatic timers. They are $45 to $60 at Lowes. Some are 120v and some 240v capable. I hope I can get one up this year.

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with circuits in the 20A range why do you need an 800A service? It would be less expensive to beef your existing service to 400A (which is still overkill for the amount of circuits your talking about).

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Joel wrote:

I agree with RedNeckChristmas. The way to go would be Intermatic timers. They are $45 to $60 at Lowes. Some are 120v and some 240v capable. I hope I can get one up this year.

I would think you'd be paying extra for the timer function when all you need is one timer to control contactors feeding power to all the circuits. Thus several 3 pole contactors controlled by one Intermatic timer might way in cheaper???

Ken

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When we had the power co. out we told them that we were considering running a 400 amp panel that would power the main area that I decorate (which is on the opposite corner of my property and across a driveway), and possible 100amp panel on the same side of the drive. They gave me the option of either delivering 400amps, or 800 amps. We know that it is overkill, but with the options we feel that the 800 would be better, just so that I never have to worry about lack of power again.

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If you want to fly first-class, you could install a G.E. type pulserelay lighting panel. They come in many sizes up to60 relay. They aren't cheap but it sounds like you aren't either. They can come with an optionalcomputerized timer that will sweep them all on or off or you can wire inputs and program all of them to come on when you push a rempte button at the house or wireless like a garage door opener.

Here's one example but similar panels are made by a lot of folks: http://www.kele.com/olcat/LC9/L3500.PDF

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Holy Crap!!!

How can I get 800 amp service????????

I had to pull teeth to get upgraded to a 200 amp panel and oversizing the wire by ONE size. I even offered to buy the wire if they would bump it up and they said no way!

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Shubb771 wrote:

Holy Crap!!!

How can I get 800 amp service????????

I had to pull teeth to get upgraded to a 200 amp panel and oversizing the wire by ONE size. I even offered to buy the wire if they would bump it up and they said no way!

Tell the power comapny you have a welder, drill press, machine tools, etc. and ask for 3-phase, 240/127 VAC power feed from them. They may want to settle for something smaller, like 800 amp.

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I have 2 Timers at 40 amps each. They go to the circut breaker and then to the front porch....maybe thats what you talking about. I can post some pictures if you want....

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Shubb771 wrote:

Holy Crap!!!

How can I get 800 amp service????????

I had to pull teeth to get upgraded to a 200 amp panel and oversizing the wire by ONE size. I even offered to buy the wire if they would bump it up and they said no way!

Move to Indiana or Georgia. The problem is your address. :D Excessive electric use in known to the state of Calli-for-nia to cause cancer in lab rats.

I couldn't help my self... I was born in Van Nuys Ca. and lived there for 30 years...

I have 2(two) 200 amp services and two meters, one for the house and one for the shop out back (and I'm in a sub-division). Love Georgia

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John,

Good to see you back posting.

Lots of new names, lots of new ideas, but the spirit lives on!

Sometimes change is good....;)

Glenn

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