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Griz

AL (2)ELD 16's & (2)BLD16's for sale

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Have 2 ELD 16's and 2 BLD 16's going up for sale.I've had enough trouble with AL so I'm changing manufacturers. I'm taking bids now. If I'm right the BLD's(not enclosed) sell for 319.00. The ELD's go for 399.00. Also comes with converter board. One BLD is set up for four AC line inputs but is currently only using two to run the whole controller. The other BLD needs firmware installed. Thanks, Griz

P.S. Items will be shipped (or delivered if you live near me in So. Cal.) after Jan 01 08

Would like to sell as a complete package.

No Monster Brain or MP3.

Add on 4 more boxes to your existing display!!!!!

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Griz wrote:

I've had enough trouble with AL so I'm changing manufacturers.

Just a thought but you may want to take that out...not the best marketing line in the world.:laughing:

Greg

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Refers to customer service. Products are great. But when I buy something from them and have to wait almost a month to get it.......... Numerous people have said the same thing about them but the threads get deleted for obvious reasons. If it wasn't for that I would keep it. They do work fine. Will also include the software.

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Griz wrote:

Refers to customer service. Products are great. But when I buy something from them and have to wait almost a month to get it.......... Numerous people have said the same thing about them but the threads get deleted for obvious reasons. If it wasn't for that I would keep it. They do work fine. Will also include the software.

I think a few weeks ago they had a death in the office and it got them diverted during the holiday sales season for the funeral but also an emotional impact on everyone there too.

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I was the one who started the thread about her having a stroke. Sometimes sympathy takes a backseat to pride. I still feel bad about what happened,but there is more to the story than that. Promised shipping dates not only this year but last year also. Charging me for something I never requested, the list goes on.

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Griz wrote:

Refers to customer service. Products are great. But when I buy something from them and have to wait almost a month to get it.......... Numerous people have said the same thing about them but the threads get deleted for obvious reasons. If it wasn't for that I would keep it. They do work fine. Will also include the software.

I was only being sarcastic...:laughing:(its what I do best)

But I will say this. I am addicted to LOR. The company is absolutely amazing to me. All I have been reading lately is that AL is having major issues. What made me decide to go with LOR is that their customer service is amazing! Not only did they release several new hardware products this year, they also released a new and absolutely amazing software upgrade. Everytime I have called LOR with an issue they have either fixed it immediately or slapped me up-side the head for not following the instructions to begin with. (enter sarcasm yet again) I know you didn't say what other company you are going to, either LOR or D-Lights, but I honestly would tell you to go with LOR.

Just my opinion.

Greg

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I downloaded the demo program from LOR and WOW!!! It's so much easier to use than AL. Besides the controllers are less expensive.

As of right now I had a bid of 800.00 for the whole package.

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Heres the pics. The only one thats not connected it the one that need firmware installed. The other small board it the RS232 to 485 converter board.

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http://store.lightorama.com/lor1600w.html

http://animatedlighting.com/products/lcpro.asp

If your comparing products then the above LOR controller and the AL ELC-16 are the same as far as load capacity and as anyone can plainly see the price of LOR is more expensive than AL. LOR lets you buy in Kit form saving you a little but only a little unless you don't don't consider your time valuable. I don't see where the software is any easier to use than AL, I mean how hard is it to click on a grid to turn a light on or off? Good Luck on your move to LOR. It's funny your over 800 dollars all ready when you say you've had nothing but troubles with the stuff.

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rikonen wrote:

http://store.lightorama.com/lor1600w.html

http://animatedlighting.com/products/lcpro.asp

If your comparing products then the above LOR controller and the AL ELC-16 are the same as far as load capacity and as anyone can plainly see the price of LOR is more expensive than AL. LOR lets you buy in Kit form saving you a little but only a little unless you don't don't consider your time valuable. I don't see where the software is any easier to use than AL, I mean how hard is it to click on a grid to turn a light on or off? Good Luck on your move to LOR. It's funny your over 800 dollars all ready when you say you've had nothing but troubles with the stuff.

Dont sweat it, both companies are good. People have jumped ship in both directions. Lately we've heard many praises from people on both AL and LOR side but I think on occassion, some people slip thru the cracks and I think this guy is one of them.

Myself I wanted to expand some circuits this year and order 2 new control boxes and it look me a bit longer then in the past to get thru but I never ordered so late in the year before either. For one AL works better with a monster brain then with the RS485 converter so I kind of understand. AL needs to advertise that a monsterbrain is MUCH preferred for their hardware, then it works great with it, and kind of so so without but my experience with monster brain or without was with older 3.x versions of the software.

It sometimes takes some getting used to differences between LOR and AL like smoothly scrolling columns in AL and page flips on playback on LOR, this made difficulty for me and my methods of getting lights synced but obviously this was not a problem for so many LOR users who get great sync's on their lights.

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D-light is the best price per channel, But I WOULD NOT BUY THEIR SOFTWARE! I would go with d-light boards and Aurora Software. It is great software!

Lee

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Griz wrote:

I downloaded the demo program from LOR and WOW!!! It's so much easier to use than AL. Besides the controllers are less expensive.

You are REALLY not doing a very good job of marketing your stuff... :P

-Tim

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Your right Tim, Sorry.

Good luck on your sale.

Thanks

Roman

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And if I ever have anything to sale in the future remind not to have Griz sale it.:laughing::laughing:

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Let's keep from AL vs. LOR "wars"... They really don't get anywhere, and just frustrate users that have hundreds tied up in whatever system they've chosen already... Strong loyalties exist for both company's products, and excellent displays have been made with both.

For newcomers, I'd advise you to do your research, compare prices, products, specs, and download the demo if possible. Also check out both company's support forums and track record. Figure out where your values are, and make your decision and don't look back!

Now lets help Griz sell his stuff and keep this thread on-track! :happytree:

-Tim

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tfischer wrote:

Let's keep from AL vs. LOR "wars"... They really don't get anywhere, and just frustrate users that have hundreds tied up in whatever system they've chosen already... Strong loyalties exist for both company's products, and excellent displays have been made with both.

For newcomers, I'd advise you to do your research, compare prices, products, specs, and download the demo if possible. Also check out both company's support forums and track record. Figure out where your values are, and make your decision and don't look back!

Now lets help Griz sell his stuff and keep this thread on-track! :happytree:

-Tim

I agree with Tim. Over the last few days much has been said concerning AL support and customer service and at times in a very inflamatory way. Loyalty does run deep and seeing as your prospective customers are the very ones whos company you and others have been slapping around the last few days it can only negativly impact a sale.

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Loyalty does run deep and seeing as your prospective customers are the very ones whos company you and others have been slapping around the last few days it can only negativly impact a sale.

My feelings exactly. I'm not saying they have a bad product. The software and controllers work perfectly. In my line of business, if someone continually doesn't pay me for services and I have to keep making calls to get the money, I won't do work for them anymore. I don't have time to do that. If AL would consider maybe posting on their website when a product is out of stock, that would be a completly different story on my part. I didn't list these controllers to try to get a new AL customer. I listed them for the "hardcore enthusists" who will add to existing hardware to make a larger show. Less headaches that way.

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tfischer wrote:

Let's keep from AL vs. LOR "wars"... They really don't get anywhere, and just frustrate users that have hundreds tied up in whatever system they've chosen already... Strong loyalties exist for both company's products, and excellent displays have been made with both.

For newcomers, I'd advise you to do your research, compare prices, products, specs, and download the demo if possible. Also check out both company's support forums and track record. Figure out where your values are, and make your decision and don't look back!

Now lets help Griz sell his stuff and keep this thread on-track! :happytree:

Actually I have run upon a bug in AL software thats hard for me to deal with. I have looked over LOR a couple times and gave it some consideration but I am better off waiting for a bug fix version for the my particular bug (so minor no one else has noticed it that owns AL but it defeats a particular effect I want and LOR seems to do it without an issue). I will stay put where I am and very happy with AL. They recently fixed some older boards that got damaged when plugged into a improperly wired outlet (my fault not theirs) and didnt charge me anything so this earned tremendous respect from me. But like you say... washing out and converting... I might possibly find LOR doesnt do something I use commonly in AL or the opposite situation and I have start over all my sequencing and also throw out a 5 year learning curve I have with AL so... its not always an advantage to jump ship.

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It's up to 900.00. If anyone really want's the equipment I will sell it now for 1000.00 and I'll pay shipping. First one to PM me gets it.

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