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Z-Tree vs. Artifical Tree

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I am looking to put a 10 to 12 foot tree in my yard. I can get a 10ft Artifical Tree for $80 (75% off) from HD, or a 12ft for $160 (75% off) from HD.

I am looking for something that would be durable, and last a few years before needing replacing. It has to last through Michigan elements.

Should I get an artifical tree from HD, or would it be cheaper and better to build a Z-tree. Just trying to weigh my pros and cons. Thanks.

Tyler

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I am looking to put a 10 to 12 foot tree in my yard. I can get a 10ft Artifical Tree for $80 (75% off) from HD, or a 12ft for $160 (75% off) from HD.

I am looking for something that would be durable, and last a few years before needing replacing. It has to last through Michigan elements.

Should I get an artifical tree from HD, or would it be cheaper and better to build a Z-tree. Just trying to weigh my pros and cons. Thanks.

Tyler

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I had nothing but trouble with having a 12' artificial tree outside.

Keeping it upright wastough. Then when I did it snapped in two in 50+ wind gust.

Beside storage is a pain they take up a lot of room That isunless you completely take them apart each season.Putting it back together will take a lot of time,not to mention you have to spend hours when you first take it out of the box straighting branches.

Never again for me, I'll stick with mega trees

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I had nothing but trouble with having a 12' artificial tree outside.

Keeping it upright wastough. Then when I did it snapped in two in 50+ wind gust.

Beside storage is a pain they take up a lot of room That isunless you completely take them apart each season.Putting it back together will take a lot of time,not to mention you have to spend hours when you first take it out of the box straighting branches.

Never again for me, I'll stick with mega trees

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I can't imaging placing the lights on an actual tree the way they need to be for the segments in a z-tree. I would say z-tree all the way.

However, if you live where it gets below about 40 degrees don't even think about pvc pipe as a material. I am rebuilding my z-tree with a metal material that's lighter than steel tubing but incredibly strong and reasonably lightweight. I will be posting as I work through the build.

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I can't imaging placing the lights on an actual tree the way they need to be for the segments in a z-tree. I would say z-tree all the way.

However, if you live where it gets below about 40 degrees don't even think about pvc pipe as a material. I am rebuilding my z-tree with a metal material that's lighter than steel tubing but incredibly strong and reasonably lightweight. I will be posting as I work through the build.

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Chris in Ct wrote:

I had nothing but trouble with having a 12' artificial tree outside.

Keeping it upright wastough. Then when I did it snapped in two in 50+ wind gust.

Beside storage is a pain they take up a lot of room That isunless you completely take them apart each season.Putting it back together will take a lot of time,not to mention you have to spend hours when you first take it out of the box straighting branches.

Never again for me, I'll stick with mega trees

We are in a sort of protected area, to the East we have a row of tall trees with a row of pine trees in front of them, to the South we a row of pine trees, to the West we have a big fence and another row of pine trees. To the North we have a few pine trees (4) and then a field with a fence row on thefar side of the field. This 'barrier' does protect us from A LOT of wind, we would get a calm breeze through the yard, but when you stepped onto out in the road, the winds would knock you over!

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Chris in Ct wrote:

I had nothing but trouble with having a 12' artificial tree outside.

Keeping it upright wastough. Then when I did it snapped in two in 50+ wind gust.

Beside storage is a pain they take up a lot of room That isunless you completely take them apart each season.Putting it back together will take a lot of time,not to mention you have to spend hours when you first take it out of the box straighting branches.

Never again for me, I'll stick with mega trees

We are in a sort of protected area, to the East we have a row of tall trees with a row of pine trees in front of them, to the South we a row of pine trees, to the West we have a big fence and another row of pine trees. To the North we have a few pine trees (4) and then a field with a fence row on thefar side of the field. This 'barrier' does protect us from A LOT of wind, we would get a calm breeze through the yard, but when you stepped onto out in the road, the winds would knock you over!

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bhays wrote:

I can't imaging placing the lights on an actual tree the way they need to be for the segments in a z-tree. I would say z-tree all the way.

However, if you live where it gets below about 40 degrees don't even think about pvc pipe as a material. I am rebuilding my z-tree with a metal material that's lighter than steel tubing but incredibly strong and reasonably lightweight. I will be posting as I work through the build.

I forgot to mention: We are not animated, and will not be, this tree will be static white with twinkling lights. Sorry for not mentioning that.

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bhays wrote:

I can't imaging placing the lights on an actual tree the way they need to be for the segments in a z-tree. I would say z-tree all the way.

However, if you live where it gets below about 40 degrees don't even think about pvc pipe as a material. I am rebuilding my z-tree with a metal material that's lighter than steel tubing but incredibly strong and reasonably lightweight. I will be posting as I work through the build.

I forgot to mention: We are not animated, and will not be, this tree will be static white with twinkling lights. Sorry for not mentioning that.

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I love the Z Tree, but I wonder if the pvc would survive in your elements. My mega tree crashed and burned every year until i changed it to have a metal center pole instead of the pvc.

Ken

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I love the Z Tree, but I wonder if the pvc would survive in your elements. My mega tree crashed and burned every year until i changed it to have a metal center pole instead of the pvc.

Ken

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My Z-tree had wind problems for 2 years.It crashed and crumbled last year because rain softened up the ground enough that stakes couldn't hold it during a very high wind. I'm gonna build a new tree that'll look similar, but the framework is vastly different. And it'll be made with wood 2x6s. It's not gonna go nowhere. Period.

There are some areas, and Texas is one of those areas, where PVC just doesn't hold up in certain applications. And here, it has nothing to do with the temp, but the prairie winds kicking up.

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My Z-tree had wind problems for 2 years.It crashed and crumbled last year because rain softened up the ground enough that stakes couldn't hold it during a very high wind. I'm gonna build a new tree that'll look similar, but the framework is vastly different. And it'll be made with wood 2x6s. It's not gonna go nowhere. Period.

There are some areas, and Texas is one of those areas, where PVC just doesn't hold up in certain applications. And here, it has nothing to do with the temp, but the prairie winds kicking up.

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Tyler,

I will moved away from the tall artificals to a steel based Z tree. Its much less of a headache to keep standing upright. Actually it didnt even move in the strong winds we have had this year. The only downside is that it was not cheap to build but then again it will last.

-jds

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Thanks for the tip. We are thinking we're going to do a mega tree in white and have some of the lights twinkle with a snowflake on top. I started pricing a Z-tree and it added up quickly, they look great though!

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joshschaf wrote:

Tyler,

I will moved away from the tall artificals to a steel based Z tree. Its much less of a headache to keep standing upright. Actually it didnt even move in the strong winds we have had this year. The only downside is that it was not cheap to build but then again it will last.

-jds

I am building from steel for next season as well. Same thoughts as you, it's not going to be cheap, but then again, it will last. I just wish I had the $350 I wasted on pvc to put toward the steel framework.

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