cmoore 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I agree that the website says that. Butthe stringsalso carry the UL approval. Which since UL has not updated their guidelines to keep up with the LED revolution still technically limits to 3 strings plugged end to end. Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cmoore 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I agree that the website says that. Butthe stringsalso carry the UL approval. Which since UL has not updated their guidelines to keep up with the LED revolution still technically limits to 3 strings plugged end to end. Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dburg30 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 cmoore wrote: I agree that the website says that. Butthe stringsalso carry the UL approval. Which since UL has not updated their guidelines to keep up with the LED revolution still technically limits to 3 strings plugged end to end. Chuck Gotcha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dburg30 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 cmoore wrote: I agree that the website says that. Butthe stringsalso carry the UL approval. Which since UL has not updated their guidelines to keep up with the LED revolution still technically limits to 3 strings plugged end to end. Chuck Gotcha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimCanfield 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Seeing this is a new page jsut will throw this question out, what is th edifference between the 5 millimeter concave and the m5 mini? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimCanfield 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Seeing this is a new page jsut will throw this question out, what is th edifference between the 5 millimeter concave and the m5 mini? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetinaDamage 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jeff_Womack wrote: I see the world wide copper market had it's affect on LED prices. :? I might be taking a year off from ordering more, the Air Force doesn't pay that well! No kidding, but copper hasn't moved THIS much - it was under 6% for last year. This pre-season pricing represents an increase of almost 60% over last year's pre-sale, especially for the LED colors that are cheapest to produce. That seems really high considering that observed in-season retail prices for LEDS dropped substantially. Here's the comparison: M5-50L Red 56.4% Increase M5-50L Gold 56.4% Increase M5-50L Blue 37.4% Increase M5-50L Green 40.3% Increase M5-50L White16.7% Increase M5-50L Multi 53.2% Increase M5-50L Warm 17.4% Increase M5-50L Orange53.1% Increase M5-50L Purple 12.4% Increase C6-50L Red 59.2% Increase C6-50L Gold 59.2% Increase C6-50L Blue 41.0% Increase C6-50L Green 43.5% Increase C6-50L White 20.1% Increase C6-50L Multi 53.2% Increase C6-50L Warm 20.9% Increase C6-50L Orange 56.2% Increase C6-50L Purple 15.9% Increase And I thought this would be the breakout year for LEDs. Ouch... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RetinaDamage 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jeff_Womack wrote: I see the world wide copper market had it's affect on LED prices. :? I might be taking a year off from ordering more, the Air Force doesn't pay that well! No kidding, but copper hasn't moved THIS much - it was under 6% for last year. This pre-season pricing represents an increase of almost 60% over last year's pre-sale, especially for the LED colors that are cheapest to produce. That seems really high considering that observed in-season retail prices for LEDS dropped substantially. Here's the comparison: M5-50L Red 56.4% Increase M5-50L Gold 56.4% Increase M5-50L Blue 37.4% Increase M5-50L Green 40.3% Increase M5-50L White16.7% Increase M5-50L Multi 53.2% Increase M5-50L Warm 17.4% Increase M5-50L Orange53.1% Increase M5-50L Purple 12.4% Increase C6-50L Red 59.2% Increase C6-50L Gold 59.2% Increase C6-50L Blue 41.0% Increase C6-50L Green 43.5% Increase C6-50L White 20.1% Increase C6-50L Multi 53.2% Increase C6-50L Warm 20.9% Increase C6-50L Orange 56.2% Increase C6-50L Purple 15.9% Increase And I thought this would be the breakout year for LEDs. Ouch... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobby1 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paul, I don't see any icicle lights unless I missed it. Thanks, Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobby1 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Paul, I don't see any icicle lights unless I missed it. Thanks, Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dburg30 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 RetinaDamage wrote: Jeff_Womack wrote: No kidding, but copper hasn't moved THIS much - it was under 6% for last year. This pre-season pricing represents an increase of almost 60% over last year's pre-sale, especially for the LED colors that are cheapest to produce. That seems really high considering that observed in-season retail prices for LEDS dropped substantially. Here's the comparison: M5-50L Red 56.4% Increase M5-50L Gold 56.4% Increase M5-50L Blue 37.4% Increase M5-50L Green 40.3% Increase M5-50L White16.7% Increase M5-50L Multi 53.2% Increase M5-50L Warm 17.4% Increase M5-50L Orange53.1% Increase M5-50L Purple 12.4% Increase C6-50L Red 59.2% Increase C6-50L Gold 59.2% Increase C6-50L Blue 41.0% Increase C6-50L Green 43.5% Increase C6-50L White 20.1% Increase C6-50L Multi 53.2% Increase C6-50L Warm 20.9% Increase C6-50L Orange 56.2% Increase C6-50L Purple 15.9% Increase And I thought this would be the breakout year for LEDs. Ouch... I wasnt around for last years, but I was 'hoping' I guess is the word to use, that I was going to be a cant be beat deal. If it is, maybe I did pick the wrong year to get into this. That's not a whine btw, just a statement of fact, plus now I'm REALLY kicking myself for not getting out to the after xmas sales for LEDs.. Sooooo mad at myself right now.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dburg30 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 RetinaDamage wrote: Jeff_Womack wrote: No kidding, but copper hasn't moved THIS much - it was under 6% for last year. This pre-season pricing represents an increase of almost 60% over last year's pre-sale, especially for the LED colors that are cheapest to produce. That seems really high considering that observed in-season retail prices for LEDS dropped substantially. Here's the comparison: M5-50L Red 56.4% Increase M5-50L Gold 56.4% Increase M5-50L Blue 37.4% Increase M5-50L Green 40.3% Increase M5-50L White16.7% Increase M5-50L Multi 53.2% Increase M5-50L Warm 17.4% Increase M5-50L Orange53.1% Increase M5-50L Purple 12.4% Increase C6-50L Red 59.2% Increase C6-50L Gold 59.2% Increase C6-50L Blue 41.0% Increase C6-50L Green 43.5% Increase C6-50L White 20.1% Increase C6-50L Multi 53.2% Increase C6-50L Warm 20.9% Increase C6-50L Orange 56.2% Increase C6-50L Purple 15.9% Increase And I thought this would be the breakout year for LEDs. Ouch... I wasnt around for last years, but I was 'hoping' I guess is the word to use, that I was going to be a cant be beat deal. If it is, maybe I did pick the wrong year to get into this. That's not a whine btw, just a statement of fact, plus now I'm REALLY kicking myself for not getting out to the after xmas sales for LEDs.. Sooooo mad at myself right now.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cmoore 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jim, The 5 millimeter concave, according to looking at the manufactures webpage is like the little button LEDs. The lense does not pertrude much past the socket. The M5 is about the size of regular minis. Chuck P.S. Oh well I tried to add pictures but did not figure it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cmoore 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Jim, The 5 millimeter concave, according to looking at the manufactures webpage is like the little button LEDs. The lense does not pertrude much past the socket. The M5 is about the size of regular minis. Chuck P.S. Oh well I tried to add pictures but did not figure it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duke 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Are the5mm concaves also considered to be "wide angle"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duke 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Are the5mm concaves also considered to be "wide angle"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duke 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Oops double post. Sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duke 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Oops double post. Sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Couple of questions for the more experienced among us. -- Would C6s be too large for a mega tree or should I stick with M5s? -- I'm thinking of buying 48 sets of the 100-Light sets (whichever you recommend above -16 strands of RGW). I believe the strings are 33.6' long, so I plan torun themdown and back up (doubled up) the tree (again, 16 channels each color). Does that sound okay? Too many lights? Too few for a 17' tree? -- What's the recommendation betweenwhite andwarm white? I'd like them to color match my white incandescent arches. Considering I'll be spending a small fortune ($700or more) on the lights to support thisplan, I'd appreciate any help with these questions. Thanks... J.D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Couple of questions for the more experienced among us. -- Would C6s be too large for a mega tree or should I stick with M5s? -- I'm thinking of buying 48 sets of the 100-Light sets (whichever you recommend above -16 strands of RGW). I believe the strings are 33.6' long, so I plan torun themdown and back up (doubled up) the tree (again, 16 channels each color). Does that sound okay? Too many lights? Too few for a 17' tree? -- What's the recommendation betweenwhite andwarm white? I'd like them to color match my white incandescent arches. Considering I'll be spending a small fortune ($700or more) on the lights to support thisplan, I'd appreciate any help with these questions. Thanks... J.D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Couple of questions for the more experienced among us. -- Would C6s be too large for a mega tree or should I stick with M5s? -- I'm thinking of buying 48 sets of the 100-Light sets (whichever you recommend above -16 strands of RGW). I believe the strings are 33.6' long, so I plan torun themdown and back up (doubled up) the tree (again, 16 channels each color). Does that sound okay? Too many lights? Too few for a 17' tree? -- What's the recommendation betweenwhite andwarm white? I'd like them to color match my white incandescent arches. Considering I'll be spending a small fortune ($700or more) on the lights to support thisplan, I'd appreciate any help with these questions. Thanks... J.D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.D. 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Couple of questions for the more experienced among us. -- Would C6s be too large for a mega tree or should I stick with M5s? -- I'm thinking of buying 48 sets of the 100-Light sets (whichever you recommend above -16 strands of RGW). I believe the strings are 33.6' long, so I plan torun themdown and back up (doubled up) the tree (again, 16 channels each color). Does that sound okay? Too many lights? Too few for a 17' tree? -- What's the recommendation betweenwhite andwarm white? I'd like them to color match my white incandescent arches. Considering I'll be spending a small fortune ($700or more) on the lights to support thisplan, I'd appreciate any help with these questions. Thanks... J.D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimCanfield 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thanks chuck, I know what you mean! I put the wal mart button led next to a mini and you really cannot tell the size difference from a distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimCanfield 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thanks chuck, I know what you mean! I put the wal mart button led next to a mini and you really cannot tell the size difference from a distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elmochamp 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 C6-50L Red 59.2% Increase C6-50L Gold 59.2% Increase C6-50L Blue 41.0% Increase C6-50L Green 43.5% Increase C6-50L White 20.1% Increase C6-50L Multi 53.2% Increase C6-50L Warm 20.9% Increase C6-50L Orange 56.2% Increase C6-50L Purple 15.9% Increase I checked what I paid last year and the price increase was no where near the percentages noted above. Am I missing something? Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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