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Chris in Ct

Zip tie gun question

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Hey! Look what I found!

That's it! It works great, actually better than the video. Maybe I should shoot a video and send it to them. :)

Two things I noticed. 1 Uline is cheaper. 2 They actually make zip guns for plastic zip ties that run $320-350.

Does it come with a guy to put them on for you as well?

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Hey! Look what I found!

By the way Chuck, how do you find such an obscure video? Nice find.

Maybe we should come up with a Can Chuck Find It thread. :)

I thought my wife was good.

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That's it! It works great, actually better than the video. Maybe I should shoot a video and send it to them. :)

Two things I noticed. 1 Uline is cheaper. 2 They actually make zip guns for plastic zip ties that run $320-350.

Does it come with a guy to put them on for you as well?

For over $300 it had better be a Victoria's Secret model!

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By the way Chuck, how do you find such an obscure video? Nice find.

Maybe we should come up with a Can Chuck Find It thread. :)

I thought my wife was good.

My Google search methods are classified "industrial secrets."

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The one she uses in the video is at Harbor Freight for 7.99 ITEM 98854-1VGA and it works great. :)

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I have two questions about these things (I've never used one):

1. Do they collect the part they cut off so it doesn't just fall into your yard? If so, how often do you have to empty it?

2. I don't normally tighten mine too tight since it just makes it harder to cut off (when removing) without running the risk of cutting a wire. How "loose" can you set the tension on these things?

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My cheap Harbor Freight one cuts it off and falls to the ground. I adjusted it to its lowest setting and it still pulls it snug.

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My cheap Harbor Freight one cuts it off and falls to the ground. I adjusted it to its lowest setting and it still pulls it snug.

I guess I'm stuck with wire cutters.

I really can't imagine these things would save me any time whatsoever. In fact, they would probably just make work for me as I would have to find all the cut-off ends.

I'm sure they have a use but I think they are a solution for a problem I don't have.

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Around here, the clay "soil" is so bad that I figure the plastic mulch is an improvement...

I think these are mostly a good improvement if you want consistently snug results.. I find them much faster and easier for getting things tight than doing it by hand...

BTW - I too feel humbled by your ability to find that clip...

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Around here, the clay "soil" is so bad that I figure the plastic mulch is an improvement...

I think these are mostly a good improvement if you want consistently snug results.. I find them much faster and easier for getting things tight than doing it by hand...

BTW - I too feel humbled by your ability to find that clip...

I wasn't looking for video...I just happened to enter the right search and it serendipitously came up in the top 5 or so hits.

And I don't want those plastic things littering the yard as it will just be a matter of time before someone cuts a foot on one.

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The clip just stays in my gun. When I release the trigger, it pushes the clip back out the front about a 1/2", so that I can grab it and drop it in my sweatshirt pocket.

I don

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Just wondering if anyone has gone to Walmart and purchased the Uline gun since this was posted?

I went to two stores and they had no zip tie guns in stock,so I'm wondering if maybe they aren't being carried any longer or do I need to visit another store?

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I still have one of the ones I bought at Wal Mart still in the package. It says Electoforce Wire Tie Tool. I did a quick search and the only ones I found were on eBay. Here is the link to one. I paid $10 for one and $7 for the second one. The eBay seller wants $15....go figure. :cool:

http://www.toolstorecentral.com/ElectroForce-89605-WIRE-TIE,i120349784849,c109566.html

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Some swear by taking an old pair of wire cutters and grinding down the edge flat and using them.

But I will say, I use my zip tie gun a ton, a metal Panduit GS2B. Mine has got to be 15 years old or more. It may not save a ton of time, but it sure helps with the squeezing and pulling that the above unit requires. With the 3 tensil settings, it does a fine job of any zip tie I have seen. I may not go through as many ties as some, but I still manage about 1K a year with everything I need them for.

Wow, just wow. After doing two light arches and zip tieing all of my C9 strings together by hand, I decided I wanted to try one of these guns. I found a Panduit GS2B on Ebay, grabbed it for a $40 buy it now and it came yesterday.

Man, WHY DIDN'T I GET ONE OF THESE YEARS AGO?!?!?!?!?

The thing is solid, works amazingly well and it's soooooo dang fast. Best of all, it cuts off the excess such that there is no sharp little remainder to cut yourself on later.

Folks, if you are going to use a lot of zipties, you know, you've been buying the 1000 count bags by the bushel, then please do yourself a huge favor and get one of these guns. Your fingers will thank you for it! (My thumb is still scarred up from all those ties I put on by hand for last Christmas)

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I went all over looking for one the other day. I'm getting ready to start a project which I will be using many zip ties, and having them tight works with my bit of OCD. 2 Wal-marts, a radio shack, and 4 other stores later, nothing. I went into an O'reily's auto part store. They had the first and only one I could find. $35 buck with 777 zip ties of various sizes.

It used to be easier to find obscure items like this.

Oh well.

Kent

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I'm sorry but I'm still having a really hard time seeing how this tool is useful. It looks to me as if it takes LONGER to use it than just doing it by hand.

The ONLY advantage I see to it over wire cutters is that it trims the end short so you don't have the sharp remnant protruding but that's about it.

I generally don't want my zip ties too tight since they're all temporary and if they are too tight it just makes them harder to cut off without damaging the wires.

I mean, really - how hard is it to put zip ties on something?

Admittedly, if you have an application where you need them really snug and don't intend to remove them then it might be useful. (And if you had more than a handful to do.)

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I agree, 1-20 now way would I even consider it. When I'm looking at using almost 100, then it kicks in. The good ones, that I have borrowed from a friend you set the tension, and it would make it that tight and then cut off. If you wanted it sung, but not so tight you couldn't cut it off, then you could set it there. If you needed it so tight that the sucker would never move again, then you could set it there. These are really usefull for the make that thing never move again area.

Kent

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I'm sorry but I'm still having a really hard time seeing how this tool is useful. It looks to me as if it takes LONGER to use it than just doing it by hand.

The ONLY advantage I see to it over wire cutters is that it trims the end short so you don't have the sharp remnant protruding but that's about it.

I generally don't want my zip ties too tight since they're all temporary and if they are too tight it just makes them harder to cut off without damaging the wires.

I mean, really - how hard is it to put zip ties on something?

Admittedly, if you have an application where you need them really snug and don't intend to remove them then it might be useful. (And if you had more than a handful to do.)

For me, it is just a matter of convienience and savings on the fingers. I did not use one initially. Once I had one, I loved it. I like the fact that it tightens and cuts all in one pull of the trigger. So for me, it was faster than pulling the zip tie tight and then picking up the cutters to cut the ends off. Even if I waited till I had them all on before I started cutting the ends off, I still had to find all of them. As far as cutting them off at the end of the season, I use a small, sharp ended pair of cutters that I use to go right up next to the wire and snip the tie off. I have not damaged a wire yet, I use several hundred on my mega tree alone. As with most things in this hobby, it boils down to personal preferences. For me, I would not want to face a season without one. :)

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I helped with one project where something like 22,000 C6 bulbs were individually tied to aircraft cable. The city park project uses a lot of bundled strings. Either three strands of C7 cord, or three strands of minis bundled together, or 4 strands of clear minis together. The minis were tied about every 6 inches. I think we used about 20,000 ties this year. Generally, one person goes through putting the ties on, and a second person then goes through with the gun.. If the tie was fairly tight as installed, the first pull will cut the tie.. If it was a bit looser, you may have to pull an extra time or two until the tension is up to the cut setting..

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Chuck if you go to plus I will bring mine and let you try it out. They work good and for 8 bucks at Harbor Freight it will pay for itself in one day in time savings.

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I'm in the Chuck camp on this one. I can't see the BIG benefit in this thing. I still have to wrap the tie around something and insert the pointy end in the little square end in the right direction.

Then I have to give it a tug with my fingers to make sure it is in to the little ratchet section... I might as well just keep pulling till it bottoms out.

At that point I have several choices depending on what I'm tying up. If its a mini tree I pull another zip out of my mouth and wrap the next point... Twig trees the same process.

If I'm on the ladder or in the yard and it's Nov. I reach in the tool apron, grab the really nice Fiskar Garden Scissors and cut off the tail.

All that said... I'm gonna go to Harbor Freight and buy one of the cheapos and see what all the fuss is about. I'm still gonna be reaching for a tool to cut off the tails. I still need both hands to wrap the ties.

I'll report back if it's a time saver, finger saver or just a different tool. IMHO only....

Oh as a side note... I don't trim the ends on Mini trees, I did trim the twigs this past year (actually Lorraine trimmed them), but this year when I re-string them I will most likely not trim.

Ya know come to think about it more... I don't trim very many at all. Only where the tail would interfere with something. Hmmmm.

Why do I need this???

Gotta go find the address of the Harbor Freight in Atlanta now... I think it's in Marietta :D

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