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CDI OFFICIAL PRE ORDER (back on track)

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By Request - Just to get this back on track:

Ok it's official - We are starting the pre order tomorrow. Here are the prices. Here are the rules:

This sale will run thru January.

No minimum orders to board members (our commercial accounts have a minimum of $1,000).

50% deposit with order.

Balance (plus shipping) is due when merchandise is ready to ship.

Merchandise will ship around April/May.

Our 90 day warranty is waived on these goods - all products will be warrantied thru the season.

There are no refunds on deposits - you may alter your order to accommodate your deposit if necessary.

***I really don't like playing E-mail 20 questions - please call 800-733-9617 with multiple questions***.

Thank you!

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What is the difference between 5MM and M6? Isn't that basically the same bulb?? --Greg--

The 5mm is a short concave lense. The M6 is a lens that looks like a traditional mini light. Two completely different animals.

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I posted this on the original CDI thread, but what about the net lights?

Did you get a vendor, if so what prices and colot options will there be?

I'd like to get some net lights in solid color (i.e. blue) so I can possibly make a lightpond.

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OK, So I had everything figured out. I ordered from Christmas-LEDs.com for this season. Wasn't paying attention and was broke during last years pre-orders. Not bad product by any means, great customer service, but the price comes no where close to the pre-order sales. I was going to order from CDI for next year. 100 C9 retros in four colors, weather x-chord, the works. Everything I needed to jump to a four color outline of the entire house for next year. I was happy with the pre-order prices, the fact that CDI is local (to me) and I could split the cost into two disbursements. Then I got an E-mail from Travis this morning about a clearance sale on C9 Retros and the prices are lower than CDI's pre-order. I know both companies have had issues in the past and as this is my first year ordering from either of them so I don't have any pre-conceived ideas. I also don't recall reading about any problems with either company on the retro bulbs. By all accounts the two products look identical. The price difference isn't huge, about 10-15 cents a bulb, but over 400 bulbs that's still 40 bucks. That should be close to the shipping cost, or at least help out towards it. Can anyone offer any advice? Is there a measurable difference between the two? I'm really torn between helping out a guy who sounds like he really needs it right now, and making a safe order with a local company that I know the shipping will be less on. Help?

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OK, So I had everything figured out. I ordered from Christmas-LEDs.com for this season. Wasn't paying attention and was broke during last years pre-orders. Not bad product by any means, great customer service, but the price comes no where close to the pre-order sales. I was going to order from CDI for next year. 100 C9 retros in four colors, weather x-chord, the works. Everything I needed to jump to a four color outline of the entire house for next year. I was happy with the pre-order prices, the fact that CDI is local (to me) and I could split the cost into two disbursements. Then I got an E-mail from Travis this morning about a clearance sale on C9 Retros and the prices are lower than CDI's pre-order. I know both companies have had issues in the past and as this is my first year ordering from either of them so I don't have any pre-conceived ideas. I also don't recall reading about any problems with either company on the retro bulbs. By all accounts the two products look identical. The price difference isn't huge, about 10-15 cents a bulb, but over 400 bulbs that's still 40 bucks. That should be close to the shipping cost, or at least help out towards it. Can anyone offer any advice? Is there a measurable difference between the two? I'm really torn between helping out a guy who sounds like he really needs it right now, and making a safe order with a local company that I know the shipping will be less on. Help?

Ok..cant stand it any longer...

Folks, I am tired of hearing about Travis and his bad luck, health, customer service and whatever else of an excuse that has been made about him and his business dealings. Also I am tired of hearing about CDI products that were defective and that were replaced. Paul said it well...2008 & 2009 are gone...move on.

CDI has a good product and I have ordered from him several times...yes I was in the group that got the bad lights. The issue was resolved to my satisfactiopn...Move on...

This thread is about the CDI pre-order...not about Travis. This does not need to be hijacked like the last thread. Order from who you want...Its your choice.

Paul, maybe you should add back in to your order rules - No Wining !

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Paul,

When we are ready to place our order, what is the best or preferred method to place the order? Should be simply call?

-Pat

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Ok..cant stand it any longer...

Folks, I am tired of hearing about Travis and his bad luck, health, customer service and whatever else of an excuse that has been made about him and his business dealings. Also I am tired of hearing about CDI products that were defective and that were replaced. Paul said it well...2008 & 2009 are gone...move on.

This thread is about the CDI pre-order...not about Travis. This does not need to be hijacked like the last thread. Order from who you want...Its your choice.

Paul, maybe you should add back in to your order rules - No Wining !

Not trying to hijack the thread into a Travis / Paul bashing session. Re-read the post. I want to know specifically about C9 Bulbs. Are there differences in the PRODUCT, not the companies? That's Why I explicitly stated I had no Pre-conceived notions about either one. I don't care about either one's history and like I stated, they look identical. I was just looking for information about differences in the PRODUCT that might tip the scale either way. I have a sample pack of Travis's retros to compare them to the ones I got from Christmas-LEDs.com. I have seen Paul's at another display in the area. I feel like ordering from either one is fine, just wanted some non-customer service rant opinions on what the product itself is like and if there are any advantages/disadvantages to either one.

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Not trying to hijack the thread into a Travis / Paul bashing session. Re-read the post. I want to know specifically about C9 Bulbs. Are there differences in the PRODUCT, not the companies? That's Why I explicitly stated I had no Pre-conceived notions about either one. I don't care about either one's history and like I stated, they look identical. I was just looking for information about differences in the PRODUCT that might tip the scale either way. I have a sample pack of Travis's retros to compare them to the ones I got from Christmas-LEDs.com. I have seen Paul's at another display in the area. I feel like ordering from either one is fine, just wanted some non-customer service rant opinions on what the product itself is like and if there are any advantages/disadvantages to either one.

Magii,

I have a bunch of CDI's retros in both C9s and C7s. Paul sent them to me when I ordered some other sample LED strings. The quality is very good, still not quite as bright as incandescents C9s but I am very tempted to at least replace our yard fence with the LED C7s. (that's about 650 bulbs right there).

As for CDI vs Travis, IMHO I would *only* make large purchases from CDI. Service from Paul is outstanding, I have never received anything incorrectly in all of the orders I've made with him and I can COUNT on him to fix anything that is defective. Note though, out of the thousands of dollars I've spent with him, I've only had ONE (1) defective green string. I don't care how much cheaper another vendor is, if there's hassle involved it's just not worth it. We have enough to deal with just making all of this happen to have to also deal with undependable vendors.

Yes, I have purchased LED strings from Travis. While I did not have any delivery problems with them, I was not involved in his pre-order mess. The quality was okay but my confidence in the vendor is very low due to the recent issues.

Right now I'm considering either M6 100 count or C6 100 count LED strings for redoing our megatree. That's about $1,500 in LEDs. I only looked at Paul's pricing with CDI, didn't even consider Travis' company.

So since I'd have to hear you complain if you *do* have issues buying from Travis, I'd strongly recommend you do not. ;)

P.S. Now that I think about it, I have some of Travis' C9 retro samples here somewhere. I will compare them directly with CDIs and let you know.

Edited by Gary Martin

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P.S. Now that I think about it, I have some of Travis' C9 retro samples here somewhere. I will compare them directly with CDIs and let you know.

Aiee, talking to myself.

Magii, I compared the CDI C9 retros to Travis' C9 retro samples. Really can't tell any difference. Same full wave, 5 LED, same plastic difussion bulb, etc. The bases are stamped slightly different. One says "Dimmable" while the other says "Dimming".

Setup in the same stringer, they look identical. Still very directional, probably 4 or 5 times as much light straight out from the base compared to the sides. Also, they still have the (huge to me) issue that the red bulbs have no where near the output of the green, blue or white (warm) ones. It looks to me like the red bulbs need about 10 LEDs to equal the 5 green or warm whites.

All that being said, if I were buying them, I would buy them from Paul at CDI.

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Paul,

When we are ready to place our order, what is the best or preferred method to place the order? Should be simply call?

-Pat

Yes call us at 800-733-9617 during the week.

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Ok..cant stand it any longer...

Paul, maybe you should add back in to your order rules - No Wining !

I think I wore that one out! :giggle:

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OK, So I had everything figured out. I ordered from Christmas-LEDs.com for this season. Wasn't paying attention and was broke during last years pre-orders. Not bad product by any means, great customer service, but the price comes no where close to the pre-order sales. I was going to order from CDI for next year. 100 C9 retros in four colors, weather x-chord, the works. Everything I needed to jump to a four color outline of the entire house for next year. I was happy with the pre-order prices, the fact that CDI is local (to me) and I could split the cost into two disbursements. Then I got an E-mail from Travis this morning about a clearance sale on C9 Retros and the prices are lower than CDI's pre-order. I know both companies have had issues in the past and as this is my first year ordering from either of them so I don't have any pre-conceived ideas. I also don't recall reading about any problems with either company on the retro bulbs. By all accounts the two products look identical. The price difference isn't huge, about 10-15 cents a bulb, but over 400 bulbs that's still 40 bucks. That should be close to the shipping cost, or at least help out towards it. Can anyone offer any advice? Is there a measurable difference between the two? I'm really torn between helping out a guy who sounds like he really needs it right now, and making a safe order with a local company that I know the shipping will be less on. Help?

As far as I know, and can tell, they are as close to being identical as possible. Same manufacturer I thought, but with different stamps on the base for their dimming, as stated by Gary, maybe not. (although that could just be a different run of bulbs, or the distinguishing factor, but still from same factory)

But, I for sure would go with CDI. The warranty, service and convenience, are all better...plus you can pick them up yourself.

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Hey, how about another HAM about the same time (a week or two after Paul is suppose to get in the lights for the pre order, order). And then we can all shuffle over and pick up our lights without the shipping charge. Lucky dogs that live in and around KC were CDI is..

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By Request - Just to get this back on track:

Ok it's official - We are starting the pre order tomorrow. Here are the prices. Here are the rules:

This sale will run thru January.

No minimum orders to board members (our commercial accounts have a minimum of $1,000).

50% deposit with order.

Balance (plus shipping) is due when merchandise is ready to ship.

Merchandise will ship around April/May.

Our 90 day warranty is waived on these goods - all products will be warrantied thru the season.

There are no refunds on deposits - you may alter your order to accommodate your deposit if necessary.

***I really don't like playing E-mail 20 questions - please call 800-733-9617 with multiple questions***.

Thank you!

Do the orders have to be in case lots?

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Paul,

For the bulk cable and vampire plugs, can you add the wire type, SPT1 or SPT2?

Thanks,

No - but our wire is the best you can get. It is rated at 10 amps, has a UV inhibitor in it (for out door use) and fits SPT1 plugs. There really is no need to carry the other two.

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Another vote for CDI. I ordered about 500 of the C7 retro's from Paul last year. They were great outlining my roof this year. I may use more of them around the windows this year.

Buying the spool of sockets makes it very easy to build custom length strings to fit just where you need them.......

Now to figure out how to sneak an order in this year...

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Paul,

I am interested in purchasing 100ct strings of either C6 or M6 multi for a mega tree this Christmas and wanted to know what the amperage and wattage ratings were for these strings and how it relates to the number of strings that can be connected together. My display will be static so I will not be separating these on a controller for individual channels.

Thanks.

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