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The C7/C9 retro bulbs I've seen wouldn't begin to light up an inflatable, unless you had dozens of them in there...

With the lighting being only a small fraction of the total energy of the inflatable, I'd suggest just sticking with good old (bright) incancesdents, and if there are ways to make the blower more energy efficient, that's where the power is being used...

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The C7/C9 retro bulbs I've seen wouldn't begin to light up an inflatable, unless you had dozens of them in there...

With the lighting being only a small fraction of the total energy of the inflatable, I'd suggest just sticking with good old (bright) incancesdents, and if there are ways to make the blower more energy efficient, that's where the power is being used...

We were able to increase power on the blower but the amperage is about the same or 2-3 amps lower.. no real big savings... but when you compare cubic air mass compared to other's blowers... you get more for the same or slightly less amperage.

We're not don yet with motors either. For 2010 they are pretty much done.. but for 2011 we are working on some different things with a totally different manufacturer. The manufacturer we work with now supplies motors to a variety of inflatable companies. Chrisha, Forever Collectibles, the people who make Yard Inflatables stuff etc. We all have similar housings but the motors are slightly different, and some may be the same. We did alter our motors a little so they will work on a variety of inflatables... and we are even taking it one step further next year. Our new motor will feature... Oh wait... I cant say just yet. Spies will cut and paste and email right to my competition. LOL

I will say ours will have a new look and will be more energy efficient. :)

As for lights what are most LEDs now-days? 1/4 Watt? I know that some of Chauvets fixtures have as high as 2 Watt LEDS which are BRIGHT!!! I would hope that there would be a screw in base c-7 that will be 1 watt... which will do the trick. I know that last year I could of had them made but they were expensive per bulb and I had to commit to a container full. Do you know how many C-7s fit into a container? LOL

Tim

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So maybe these newer LEDs will work... are screw in base or push-in plug type?

Output from the white C-9 LED retrofit bulb is significantly let than a standard C-9.

Here is a post I did comparing LED holiday lighitng sample set against regular C-9 bulbs. Some of the colored bulbs were ok, but white was poor.

These are the same 5led bulbs, just a G30 globe:

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We were able to increase power on the blower but the amperage is about the same or 2-3 amps lower.. no real big savings... but when you compare cubic air mass compared to other's blowers... you get more for the same or slightly less amperage.

We're not don yet with motors either. For 2010 they are pretty much done.. but for 2011 we are working on some different things with a totally different manufacturer. The manufacturer we work with now supplies motors to a variety of inflatable companies. Chrisha, Forever Collectibles, the people who make Yard Inflatables stuff etc. We all have similar housings but the motors are slightly different, and some may be the same. We did alter our motors a little so they will work on a variety of inflatables... and we are even taking it one step further next year. Our new motor will feature... Oh wait... I cant say just yet. Spies will cut and paste and email right to my competition. LOL

I will say ours will have a new look and will be more energy efficient. :)

As for lights what are most LEDs now-days? 1/4 Watt? I know that some of Chauvets fixtures have as high as 2 Watt LEDS which are BRIGHT!!! I would hope that there would be a screw in base c-7 that will be 1 watt... which will do the trick. I know that last year I could of had them made but they were expensive per bulb and I had to commit to a container full. Do you know how many C-7s fit into a container? LOL

Tim

Tim, go into the Wal-Mart light bulb area, not all Wal-Marts carry these, but they do sell a C7 style LED bulb, at least one Wal-Mart near me does. Believe the cost is around $6.00-$7.00, standard C7 Christmas style screw base.

Here's a shot of a current 120V Standard Base White LED Bulb (see photo's):

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Standard LED bulb for house lamp/ceiling fan/chandelier.

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What it looks like when on.

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Shot of my White Tiger flag in completely darkened room.

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Same Murial now lit with ONLY the LED bulb in the lamp fixture.

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What it may look like from inside an inflatable, since Lamp Shades are almost the same thickness and are just as translucent. This should give you a good idea.

The ONLY problem with this particular LED bulb is according to the instructions IT IS NOT DIMMABLE! But I was able to "dim it", but I wouldn't recommend it. Now there are DIMMABLE LED bulbs out there, but they do cost a little more. So these could be used with LOR only if kept at full intensity, but they can be "twinkled" or "shimmered", that seemed to work, but don't know what kind of effect it would have long term since the bulb isn't dimmable.

Anyway, just some food for thought.

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Chris, Clay & Jerry... Thanks for the posts.

Chris great comparisons. I also checked out the other post you made... and clear to see where LEDs are brighter. Love the blue. :)

Im wondering with where technology and these things go how soon will it be before you can get higher voltage LEDs for home use with in home fixtures with that C-7 or standard screw in base.

I will have to take a run to the local lowes, home depot and walmart today and buy what I can find and run some tests this weekend.. before superbowl of coarse. ;)

I appreciate the help and feedback.

BTW Chris... THANK YOU. I just took a look at your website, and while I love computerized displays I always thought it would be hard to do. your "How ist Done" link makes it look simple enough to at least want to try it. The only question i have is there a good resource that shows you how to do the sequenses?

Tim

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Chris, Clay & Jerry... Thanks for the posts.

Im wondering with where technology and these things go how soon will it be before you can get higher voltage LEDs for home use with in home fixtures with that C-7 or standard screw in base.

Tim

Tim, if you want to get a high voltage LED light, here's a good website, but their LED home fixture bulbs are EXPEN$IVE!

http://www.ledlight.com

I used to buy all my bulk LED's from these folks, but they don't do the basic LED any more, they are now focusing more on the 120-240V LED lights as well as 12V LED lights for marine and automotive use as well as some "specialty LED lights."

They have a ton of information about LED's on their site too. You can learn a lot just by reading through their FAQ areas.

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Well that is something we can discuss and see what works best for masses... 6 foot or 8 foot. For those of you who went to PLUS 2005 & 2007 you got to see the 12 foot version. Man is that thing Huge!!

I would love the 12 foot.My 12 foot {not PC] santa ripped christmas 08 & would love another that size.The 6 foot seems small & would rather 8 if 12 won't do.But who am I kidding? I want 1 either way :giggle:

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DOH!, Forgot to answer the size question, in all honesty, it doesn't matter to me, as long as he is big enough he can be seen from the far side of the moon:eek:, that would be just perfect.:giggle: Just kidding.

Seriously, 6' or 8' would be fine. Not sure if I'd have the room for a 12' Gigantor Santa, that size I may need to add a flashing red aircraft warning light on top!:giggle: j/k.

Now if I were going to place him on the roof, I think 4' would be a good size, 6' might work, but I'm not really sure about that one.

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Tim, if you want to get a high voltage LED light, here's a good website, but their LED home fixture bulbs are EXPEN$IVE!

http://www.ledlight.com

Thanks for the Link... I will check them out. Even if I can buy some for testing... then send it to my guys in china to find for me. Just would like to find a sensible LED solution if at all possible.

I would love the 12 foot.My 12 foot {not PC] santa ripped christmas 08 & would love another that size.The 6 foot seems small & would rather 8 if 12 won't do.But who am I kidding? I want 1 either way :giggle:

LOL Thanks for your interest. Im sure we can produce another 12 footer if Chuck allowed it.. but the only 12 footer we made we donated to Chuck to use for PLUS or his own display. Sort of a thank you for allowing us to be part of this forum and a huge part of PLUS 2005 and PLUS 2007.

Now if I were going to place him on the roof, I think 4' would be a good size.

4 Foot would not be an option. Sorry

We would make just one size... and it so far appears to be 8 foot. :)

Tim

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Thanks for the Link... I will check them out. Even if I can buy some for testing... then send it to my guys in china to find for me. Just would like to find a sensible LED solution if at all possible.

4 Foot would not be an option. Sorry

We would make just one size... and it so far appears to be 8 foot. :)

Tim

The 4 footer was just an idea that was basically "tossed out there". I think 6'-8' would do nicely too, just not roof sized where I am.

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Well PC Puffers.... Looks like there will be a new PC Santa Inflatable Made!!!

I just got Approval from Chuck to go ahead and redesign it all I want. So I was thinking PC Santa in front of a computer contriolling his sequences. LOL Just kidding.

We will be re-designing the PC Santa standing holding the Giant C-7 bulb.

Now that we got approval from Chuck... I like to see who else would want one before we go ahead and place the order for them.

So if you did not yet Vote... Please do so now.

Thank you

Tim

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Peppers... I think Chucks cost me $250 last time... because it was a one of a kind. But if we can get people interested in that size... Te price will be considerably lower when making a bunch of them.

Tim

OUCH!! Would be nice though.If others show interest that would be great too for the price to lower.

Thanks Tim

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