dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I don't know why you are paying $5-8 per light string... It wasn't 5-8 per string... it was 5-8 per three strings of 100.. "* $5-8 for mini incandescent lights (300-400) per tree" This season with the VERY short supply, I generally paid $1.50 per 100 box, or about $4.50 + tax. I am not knocking the Coro Tree they look cool and I wouldn't mind having a few but the price is too much currently with all the other expenses of controllers etc to buy. I don't know that the comparison between the CoroTree and the tomato cage is even really appropriate. Cost is just but one of the issues. I don't suspect cost is the primary driver for someone that purchases CoroTrees - there are a number of other advantages to CoroTrees over tomato cages. With a Tomato Cage Tree you are able to make the entire tree a certain color and the entire tree be fully that color, I don't see this happening with the Coro Trees.... They are called tomato cages, not tomato trees - they look nothing like trees. You can do an entire CoroTree in more than one color - how about this three channel/three color tree that is fully populated with the colors much more evenly than I generally find with tomato cages: http://vimeo.com/8948709 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 OK, Here are the pictures I had on FB. This was after our 18" of snow. I can see you didn't pop for the heat strip option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LightsonBeasley 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 It wasn't 5-8 per string... it was 5-8 per three strings of 100.. "* $5-8 for mini incandescent lights (300-400) per tree" This season with the VERY short supply, I generally paid $1.50 per 100 box, or about $4.50 + tax. I don't know that the comparison between the CoroTree and the tomato cage is even really appropriate. Cost is just but one of the issues. I don't suspect cost is the primary driver for someone that purchases CoroTrees - there are a number of other advantages to CoroTrees over tomato cages. They are called tomato cages, not tomato trees - they look nothing like trees. You can do an entire CoroTree in more than one color - how about this three channel/three color tree that is fully populated with the colors much more evenly than I generally find with tomato cages: http://vimeo.com/8948709 I didn't mean to say tomato trees... Meant "tomato cage trees" Anyway tomatoes grow on plants not trees in the first place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I didn't mean to say tomato trees... Meant "tomato cage trees" Anyway tomatoes grow on plants not trees in the first place Tomato Cages are for Tomatos - CoroTrees are for Christmas Lights! :giggle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terrypowerz 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Tomato Cages are for Tomatos - CoroTrees are for Christmas Lights! :giggle: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B_Regal78 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Tomato Cages are for Tomatos - CoroTrees are for Christmas Lights! :giggle:You two monkies are cracking me up... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magii 10 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I'm not making up my mind until I see a comparison spreadsheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I'm not making up my mind until I see a comparison spreadsheet. Now is that a taunt about the controller spreadsheet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magii 10 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Now is that a taunt about the controller spreadsheet? Nope, you seem to have lots of good comparisons of totally different things. I'd love to see a direct comparison of advantages/disadvantages of the 3 different types of mini trees discussed. I think it would be a usefull tool to help people wanting to make a few make up their minds about which direction they might want to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LightsonBeasley 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Nope, you seem to have lots of good comparisons of totally different things. I'd love to see a direct comparison of advantages/disadvantages of the 3 different types of mini trees discussed. I think it would be a usefull tool to help people wanting to make a few make up their minds about which direction they might want to go. I think it would be a good asset to the community as well, Comparisons really do help when trying to deside IMHO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Nope, you seem to have lots of good comparisons of totally different things. I'd love to see a direct comparison of advantages/disadvantages of the 3 different types of mini trees discussed. I think it would be a usefull tool to help people wanting to make a few make up their minds about which direction they might want to go. "totally" different? Like apples and oranges or like oranges and tangerines? Usually I just compare things that are in the same family. What would we be comparing here? "mini trees"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terrypowerz 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thread jack alert! Serious question though... I know why they are punched that way (odd freq steps in US), but if a guy ordered one of the smaller FM signs, would it be possible to add the half dozen or so holes in the last digit to make it like the first 2 on the "under 100mhz" version? I like the versatility of number styling and symmetrical appearance. Ignore the comparison requests... those guys are "jerks" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thread jack alert! Serious question though... I know why they are punched that way (odd freq steps in US), but if a guy ordered one of the smaller FM signs, would it be possible to add the half dozen or so holes in the last digit to make it like the first 2 on the "under 100mhz" version? I like the versatility of number styling and symmetrical appearance. Ignore the comparison requests... those guys are "jerks" You are correct - the holes that are "missing" from the last digit, which is always odd, can be added back if you'd like them. If you order one, just make a note in the order checkout screen that you'd like to have all the holes show up for the final digit. For those wondering what this is refering to: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Nope, you seem to have lots of good comparisons of totally different things. I'd love to see a direct comparison of advantages/disadvantages of the 3 different types of mini trees discussed. I think it would be a usefull tool to help people wanting to make a few make up their minds about which direction they might want to go. I'm game for that. How about these comparisons: * Parts cost to build * Mounting method * Wind resistance * Assembly time * Daytime aesthetics * Common Sizes * Storage volume * Light distribution * Multi-Channel/Color support * Light output direction (degrees) * Safety * Durability * Repair complexity * Environmental resistance (snow, rain, UV) How does that sound? Anyone else have more items to add? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B_Regal78 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I'm game for that. How about these comparisons: * Parts cost to build * Mounting method * Wind resistance * Assembly time * Daytime aesthetics * Common Sizes * Storage volume * Light distribution * Multi-Channel/Color support * Light output direction (degrees) * Safety * Durability * Repair complexity * Environmental resistance (snow, rain, UV) How does that sound? Anyone else have more items to add? You do something that extensive, you had better find a nice "how to" area and save it there as opposed to being lost in a thread somewhere...Just a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 You do something that extensive, you had better find a nice "how to" area and save it there as opposed to being lost in a thread somewhere...Just a thought. I'd create a new thread once its done and post it there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magii 10 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I'm game for that. How about these comparisons: * Parts cost to build * Mounting method * Wind resistance * Assembly time * Daytime aesthetics * Common Sizes * Storage volume * Light distribution * Multi-Channel/Color support * Light output direction (degrees) * Safety * Durability * Repair complexity * Environmental resistance (snow, rain, UV) How does that sound? Anyone else have more items to add? I would add one more category, kind of a blanket "other advantages." Like I said before, I used my trees to hide my controllers and it helped keep them out of the snow. I'll probably do the same thing next year. I'm sure each design has some unique characteristics that set it apart as well. Maybe it's too much of a catch all category, but something to consider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmoore 2 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I would add one more category, kind of a blanket "other advantages." Like I said before, I used my trees to hide my controllers and it helped keep them out of the snow. I'll probably do the same thing next year. I'm sure each design has some unique characteristics that set it apart as well. Maybe it's too much of a catch all category, but something to consider. Ok, I'll add: * Hide controller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tfischer 17 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I would add one more category, kind of a blanket "other advantages." Like I said before, I used my trees to hide my controllers and it helped keep them out of the snow. I'll probably do the same thing next year. I'm sure each design has some unique characteristics that set it apart as well. Maybe it's too much of a catch all category, but something to consider. Wouldn't the coro trees hide the controllers (at least from the front view) as well as the more standard mini trees? Maybe just an "other notes" section to catch fringe differences like "can completely hide controller inside tree, if enough lights/garland is used". I personally think they're two distinct beasts with overlapping (but not identical) uses. It's hard to quantify the differences, since 'standard' mini-trees can be made in so many ways (e.g. wrapped tightly with many lights, wrapped with fewer lights so it can be 'transparent' when off and toward the front of the display, etc). And some of us use rope light on our minis, for a completely different, abstract look. None are 'correct', it's all in what you're looking for... As for which one looks like a tree-- I doubt anyone's going to mistake any of them for a real tree The coro trees are a great option to have, and are priced decent for what you get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jldavis1969 10 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Easy: Steps 1) Buy 2 Tomato cages for each tree (I use "medium") 2) Insert 1 cage into another and offset the supports 3) Wrap with lights. Use cable ties to strap wire down On Number 3 how often do you strap the wire down? Every support or every other support? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indytycoon 0 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 On Number 3 how often do you strap the wire down? Every support or every other support? About every 5th to 8th bulb. I mainly just strapped them so they were not loose. You'll know if it needs more (or less) I have three colors and I actually did each string separately. That way when I have to replace one, I just remove the the offending string. It uses more ties, but I find it easier for troubleshooting. If a string goes out, just cut the ties and and place the new on. In the 5 minute deal I did in an earlier post, I did not remove the old string. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Wingert 10 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Rather than a new thread, I've got a question about the floral easels that I bought from Hobby Lobby. They are painted green, has anyone that's used these had issues with them rusting? Don't want to wrap all these lights then have the trees start to rust after a week. Would it be better to paint these again with some rustoleum? Any experience with these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magii 10 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Rather than a new thread, I've got a question about the floral easels that I bought from Hobby Lobby. They are painted green, has anyone that's used these had issues with them rusting? Don't want to wrap all these lights then have the trees start to rust after a week. Would it be better to paint these again with some rustoleum? Any experience with these? See the pics in post 24, those are floral easels. 24" of snow this season, no rust. They work great as is, bought mine at Michael's and at garage sales. They are made to go outside, usually for wreaths around memorial day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Wingert 10 Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 See the pics in post 24, those are floral easels. 24" of snow this season, no rust. They work great as is, bought mine at Michael's and at garage sales. They are made to go outside, usually for wreaths around memorial day. Good to know!! Didn't want to spend more $$ on these things priming and repainting. Gonna wrap em' as is... Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroy 10 Posted July 6, 2010 Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 WOW! Thanks for the suggestions. I can't afford to build a mega tree but this has real possibilities for my small front yard. Thanks guys. I'm a newbie too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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