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taybrynn

What would you do?

Which way should I go?  

  1. 1. Which way should I go?

    • Option A - do the finished seat/table
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    • Option B - just cover the access lid and have small gaps under the wall.
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I am having my basement finished and I can cover the subfloor / sump pump access with either option:

(A) a 20" high table (drywalled sides, removable wood top), which is larger than

the opening.

Pros: finished look, no carpet seam, no gap under walls, can use as a table or seat?

Cons: room is other symmetrical with two windows equally spaced on either side,

this kind of rocks that

never wanted to draw attention to the subfloor/sump access

harder to access, since must first go into 20" deep box, then open

access lid for final 24" drop ... so almost a 4' manhole effect.

or

(B) leave a gap at the bottom of the walls, and just put the carpet and pad on the access

lid.

Pros: symmetry of room preserved

can cover with furniture or table if necessary

no need for a big table/seat that I never wanted, more room layout options

small gap under wall may disappear when carpet (shag, lots of colors) is

run under the wall and trim.

smaller footprint, since no wall framed around access lid and part of the

24x24 acess lid will be under the wall

easier to access, since only a single 24" drop

Cons: gap under wall might be visible

carpet seams might show where carpet on lid meets the rest of the room

no table or seat

trim might look funny, if it needs to be cut, not thinking it will

Either solution requires cutting the latch from the existing access lid.

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