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vvolf27

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Hello,

Next year me and my wife have decided to try an animated light show. After looking at different ways to make my own or buy ready made controllers I am seriously considering Revival Control Systems. Before finding this company I was going to buy the 32 channel kit from LOR. However for a little bit more money, I can get 80 channels, I have to install female ends on the controller, they already sent me plans on how to do it, not very hard to do. Before spending my money I was wondering what some of you thought about this company?

Thank you very much and I am learning so much here.

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I noticed they do not have any plugs, how do you attach the power to lights?
Here is the how to. For someone like me who has no experience cutting wires or splicing this would be scary. Okay it scares me :)http://revivalcontrolsystems.com/Support/Documents/How%20to%20create%20a%20custom%20connection%20to%20the%20light%20controller.pdf

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I would try DIYC (www.doityourslefchristmas.com) or DLA (www.diylightanimation.com) before you go with something like that. Most of my controllers are from DIYC or DLA, and they work really well, and for about $850 (80 channels with Revival) you can get over 164 channels with DIY, I have spend about $500 on controllers and I have 144 channels, and thats with dongles. Its a little more work to get a controller together, but it only cost about a third of other controllers. And the software to run them is completely free.

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I am not sure either, but the mistake I made was looking at LOR showtime products commercial grade controllers. For $377.00 they were out of my price range, but I found the PC version for residential use for a lot cheaper. I am not sure why they do not come with the plugs either, they sent me a pdf on how to connect plugs. Jem I am not totally sure if I am ready to build my own board yet, I have looked at the Lynx express and might try my hand at those one day. At this point I think I will go with LOR PC boxes.

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a few comments:

Take a serious look at DLA (www.diylightanimation.com) they have a coop going on right now for their Lynx Express otherwise known as LE. You have to 'introduce' yourself in the new members section first in order to get full benefit of the site. The price for a 16 channel LE should be around $65. Look under 'Current Coops' at the bottom of the home page for details. They are a kit so you'll have to put it together yourself. I have built a number of his kits and the quality is first rate! Also factor in the fact that you'll need to get a case and some wires. Most guys use the Keptel CG-1500 demarc case for this. The cords can be gotten from monoprice.com or just get some extension cords from your local big block store (Lowes or HomeDepot). Take a look at DLA's wiki site to get an idea of what you'll be up against. They have the assembly manuals there and I must say that if you have problems after the build they guys will do everything they can to get you going.

Concerning Revival, look around at their forum, you won't see a lot of activity there (probably because they are new)! That means that if you have any questions you won't have a large community to help answer them. I have contacted Revival about some product questions and got very quick responses. Be aware that you will be limited to using the Sequencing software which comes with the pkg. I think that LightShowPro is working on adding their controller to their program sometime next year.

Also, I believe that LOR has a sale coming up this Feb. One thing about LOR controllers is that each channel can handle more current that say the LE so you'll want to pay attention to the spec on whatever you purchase. (IF you will be using LED lights this will not be much of a concern, since their current draw is so little.) LOR also has kit products so you could get their 16 chan controller and build it yourself. Again, factor in the cost of the case and cords and heatsink into your cost.

Hope this helps!

Edited by tng5737

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Thank you for all the advice. Jem couldn't agree with you more which is why I am glad you are all here to help steer me straight. I have looked around DLA and checked the wiki, it seems a little over my head at this point, but I may try to get 1 in the Coop to try out. I did notice that about Revival (forum), however you do get a fast response to questions. I was also thinking no one uses the software so I would be in a large ocean all alone, where as LOR plenty of people around here could probably help me out. Plus from what I am finding out it is better to place your controller close to the actual display vs running yards and yards of extension cord.

I will be all LED and at first will not have more than 4 100 light strands plugged into 1 controller.

I am already questioning my sanity by starting with 96 channels, but I know what I want in my show and what I want it to do. I want more channels but I am trying to limit myself because of sequencing. I downloaded the demo LOR S2 and will start trying to figure out how build a sequence. It seems straight forward enough, just very tedious.

What do most people set the time limit to? 1/10, 1/20, 1/2, or 1?

For my first try I am doing the THX intro at 1/2 for 96 channels it is only 13 seconds so I figure that would be a good start.

Well all I can say is I am really excited and can't wait till next Christmas so I can see my show for the first time!

Really looking forward to hanging out here and learning all that I can!

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If Revival Control wants to play on the LOR playground, it would seem really wise to add in LOR protocol support and DMX wouldn't hurt either. That would open up all the sequencing software (S2, LSP, Aurora, Vixen (which is what they appear to be using)) for use with their controllers.

I also really wonder about that "8 amps per channel" spec - they don't have heat sinks. Also, if you look, you'll see they are actually 3 power inputs with two 16 channel controllers and one 8 channel controller. That also limits you in certain displays where you don't want all your channels centralized.

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Thank you for all the advice. Jem couldn't agree with you more which is why I am glad you are all here to help steer me straight. I have looked around DLA and checked the wiki, it seems a little over my head at this point, but I may try to get 1 in the Coop to try out. I did notice that about Revival (forum), however you do get a fast response to questions. I was also thinking no one uses the software so I would be in a large ocean all alone, where as LOR plenty of people around here could probably help me out. Plus from what I am finding out it is better to place your controller close to the actual display vs running yards and yards of extension cord.

I will be all LED and at first will not have more than 4 100 light strands plugged into 1 controller.

I am already questioning my sanity by starting with 96 channels, but I know what I want in my show and what I want it to do. I want more channels but I am trying to limit myself because of sequencing. I downloaded the demo LOR S2 and will start trying to figure out how build a sequence. It seems straight forward enough, just very tedious.

What do most people set the time limit to? 1/10, 1/20, 1/2, or 1?

For my first try I am doing the THX intro at 1/2 for 96 channels it is only 13 seconds so I figure that would be a good start.

Well all I can say is I am really excited and can't wait till next Christmas so I can see my show for the first time!

Really looking forward to hanging out here and learning all that I can!

I started off with 1/10 timing, and after a couple years I moved to 1/20. I don't know what you are planning on having in your show, but if you end up doing Mega Trees or arches someday in your display, you will need 1/20 timing, trust me. But for now, just take it one step at a time. I think 1/2 second timing is good enough for the song you are doing, and its a great way to learn the basics of the software and what the different effects do.

If Revival Control wants to play on the LOR playground, it would seem really wise to add in LOR protocol support and DMX wouldn't hurt either. That would open up all the sequencing software (S2, LSP, Aurora, Vixen (which is what they appear to be using)) for use with their controllers.

I also really wonder about that "8 amps per channel" spec - they don't have heat sinks. Also, if you look, you'll see they are actually 3 power inputs with two 16 channel controllers and one 8 channel controller. That also limits you in certain displays where you don't want all your channels centralized.

I was thinking the same thing about the channel loads. I don't see how they can get 8 amps per channel without any kind of heat sink, unless it is not pictured for some reason? If vvolf27 is going to use LEDs, I wouldn't worry about drawing too much current because LEDs hardly use any electricity. If you had thousands and thousands of LEDs on a single channel, they there may be some concerns there, but I think for the first year your good.

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I used Revival Control this year for my display. I found if to be a great product for the price. The customer support is excellent. Having to attach your own plugs is really not a big deal. I found 6 ft indoor extension cords at home depot for $ 0.99 a piece. I used all forty channels (8,000) lights and only had a few problems (all of which were my fault) I blew the breaker a few times because while I was in the early stages of building the display I was trying to use only one circuit. I had to run another outlet from the breaker box (not a big deal) Other than that, the controller worked great. The software is not as streamlined looking as the LOR software, but it works well. I did not have any problems with it (that were not my fault lol). Overall I thought the system was very easy to understand and to use. I am 17 years old and this was my first go at a light display. If I could do it, so can you! Good Luck

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