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Anyone ever heard of this company? There is now a new competitor on the market.

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http://www.revivalcontrolsystems.com

They must be fairly new. $500.00 for a 40 channel controller which includes the software. That price is the same as two PC controllers & 1 8 channel board only.

However they hardly have anyone on their forum & that makes me think they are new.

There is now a new competitor on the market .

Well I like my Lor & so I will stick with it & the great service.

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http://www.revivalcontrolsystems.com

They must be fairly new. $500.00 for a 40 channel controller which includes the software. That price is the same as two PC controllers & 1 8 channel board only.

However they hardly have anyone on their forum & that makes me think they are new.

There is now a new competitor on the market .

Well I like my Lor & so I will stick with it & the great service.

I have seen this before not enough info on their site.

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I sent them a email, basically questioning their reliability and pointing out the lack of information on their site. I will keep the forums posted if I receive any additional information back from them. Their price point seems too good, maybe there is something I am missing, but I will keep this thread in mind when I hear back.

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I sent them a email, basically questioning their reliability and pointing out the lack of information on their site.

Well, I'm sure that will be the start of a positive exchange. And San Diego? All the more reason not to trust them. :lol:

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I was nice about it, asked them to compare it to other controllers, because as I read there is nothing on the site that says that they last or what they really can do.

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From their site it appears that they've been around since mid-2009, and that their niche is the worship market. So it stands to reason that their public presence may not be obvious to holiday decorating crowd. :unsure:

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They use 40 channels, now say you want 2 15 channel fans & 1 9 channel arch that comes out to 39 channels. 40 channels on 1 controller give a person 4-9 channel arches, whereas it will take two Lor 16 channel controllers & 1 eight channel controller.

However for me Lor is still my choice of controller but I was just wondering if anyone ever bought these controllers that are on this forum. If there was a way to make them work with Lor controllers that might be cool. LSP maybe?

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It's interesting. Pretty nice website actually.

Competition is almost always good.

It seems to use a serial to RG45 adapter.

They don't mention what protocol they are using, but its RS485 delivered like LOR.

I found a pdf showing that the cords (for the controller) are not included, so you use a bit of

DIY with these.

http://www.revivalcontrolsystems.com/Support/Documents/How%20to%20create%20a%20custom%20connection%20to%20the%20light%20controller.pdf

Cost wise, I don't see a big savings over LOR, since you can usually get 16ch PC controller (on sale, cord assembly required) for around $200 shipped ... so this $500 controller for 40 channels is roughly just 2.5 LOR PC controllers, so same price, but these don't have cords.

Now they are including the software for free ... so pricing seems similar overall, if you want to trade cost of cords vs. cost of software ... but software is only purchased once currently.

My worry would be lack of compatibility, support and track record. And what about RGB, DMX, other hardware support ?

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Cost wise, I don't see a big savings over LOR, since you can usually get 16ch PC controller (on sale, cord assembly required) for around $200 shipped ... so this $500 controller for 40 channels is roughly just 2.5 LOR PC controllers, so same price, but these don't have cords.

At a glance, I would put these somewhere between the PC and Showtime controllers, given the screw down connections and the robust looking board traces. Though I do find the lack of heat sinks on the triacs a little disturbing. Perhaps a higher capacity component?

And what about RGB, DMX, other hardware support ?

Given that there is no mention of any other companies and/or gadgets on their site, I assume that these relatively recent fascinations in the hobby community have little to do with Revival's intended market. But remember, LOR-S2 cannot yet send DMX without an expensive add-on piece of hardware, and D-Light just got DMX off the workbench for it's controllers, so it's a bit premature to start measuring every other product by a standard that's still experiencing growing pains as it's worked into home decorating gear.

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Recived an email back, very promptly here is what it says;

We are a fairly new company. Our products have been tested in the field for over three years. During these field test, we have improved our hardware and software before releasing to our users.The controller and software are easy to use. You don’t have to be a programmer to create the show. You can use the graphical grid to tell the controller which lights to come on and how long they stay on. We have many different effects for the lights. When you add your music to the sequence, the software can also display a wave form that represent the audio so that you can visualize when the music gets faster/slower or louder/softer. This also allow to time the light and music easily.

In addition to our graphical grid, we also have several automated features that will help you create your light/music sequence. You can map a certain light channel to a frequency in the audio. Whenever the music frequency reaches a threshold, the light will turn on. Our automated feature will create a whole sequence for you. You may refine the sequence anytime afterwards.

Our system is not your typical plug and play controller like others that are available from HomeDepot and Lowe’s. Our system is very adaptable and expandable. Our system has a high channel capacity per controller. We offer 40 channels. Each channel is independent of one another.

I like the automated feature that they mention, I might just give them a call and talk a while and see what I can learn.

Edited by Joker4452

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Well I just got off the phone with Richard. The concerns above were addressed.

The controller does have heatsinks. A bank for each set of channels; Channels [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] This also means that there are 3 power supplies compared to the 5 for a LOR controller network with the same amount of channels, but does have a lower amp load per channel from channels 9-40. 1-8 are the same as LOR.

They are not currently compatible with any other software, but they are currently in contact with LSP to try and get integration started so that LSP could be used to control them.

DMX and RGB are not compatible, but once LSP is in the mix, RGB should be up and running.

If more than one controller is needed(desired), they are connected via the same daisy chain method we all know and love.

The RS485 is through a serial port, but from what I understand, the same prtocal is used so it is possible to use the usb adapter from LOR to run the lights(speculation)

As for the company side of it, They are new and the person I talked to was the owner, answered the phone as if it were a cell phone. He stated that as of right now, he does not even advise o switch from your current system to his, due to the incompatibility, but...Once LSP is onboard it would be a viable addition to a show that is using LSP to control what you already have.

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Impressive.

I'm curious how they handle power with those 40 channels.

When I did the Guatemala tree, we had 16-channel controllers only giving power to 4 circuits because the amps were so high.

Certainly a company to keep an eye on, but I'm not impressed by their showcase.

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I used Revival Control for my first display in 2010. It was a small church display in SW Missouri. My oppinion is that the controller worked great for what I was doing. The customer support was awesome! The programing software, called prism, is easy to use past the learning curve.

I would recomend this product to anyone wanting to start a display.

A video of my display can be seen on their showcase. (First year and I am only 17) Feel free to message me with any supportive critiques.

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Howdie from Ca, total Newbie here. Been doing research and trying to decide where to invest.

On the subject of the Revival controller system, if anyone is still interested. I wrote to the Co and this was their (his) reply:

Hi Bea, Thank you for your interest in our product. To address your inquires, I sorry to say that we are not compatible with LOR controllers. We may, in the future work with another Software vendor that will make our controllers be compatible with LOR. Our controllers are easy to upgrade. With all our controllers they can daisy-chain to one another to expand the system. All you have to do is flip a dip switch to address the controller. You can daisy chain up to 128 controllers. That is 5120 channels!

If time is your concern, we offer automated sequencing features that will allow you to make an audio frequency of the music to the lighting channel. Afterwards the software will calculate when the music audio picks up and turn on the lights based on the frequency of the audio. We can also create lighting sequences based on the intensity of the audio. These features are what differentiate our software from LOR. (Showtime)

At this time we do not sell pre-made sequences. We are planning to have some on sale before the summer is over. If you need some sequences to get you started, I can send you some of mine that I used for my show, just to get you started.

I hope I’ve answered your questions. If you have more questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Best regards and blessings, Richard Truong, Revival Control Systems

I really like his Carol of the Bells, which is done, it seems, with only one controller http://www.revivalco...s.com/Showcase/

I'm brand new at this so I don't understand any of the 'automated sequencing features' stuff (I will a year from now, no doubt). I've had one of those 6-outlet pre-sequenced boxes for years and it (and Virtual Santa) helped me win a local contest last year, but it only makes me more hungry to do my own choreography So I talked to Chuck about Revival and of course he would advise any newbie to go for the product with the most support and proven history. I might consider their controllers in the future if they become compatible with S2.

I'm curious and would love to hear if there is more than 2 people out there with actual experience with this product.

bea

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