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What floods are best to illuminate front of house.

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I have looked ar Vflood, rainbow flood but some are using just conventional ac flood lights. What are the pros and cons of led vs. AC floods? What specific floods are you using?

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I've used both the V-Flood and the Rainbow Flood.

The V-Flood is much brighter and has more even color distribution than the RF. It is also a RGB-W (white) flood vs an RGB flood. The RF is a solid flood as well, although the red is dimmer than the other 2 colors, perhaps by a factor of 2-3x.

As for cost: V-Drive/V-Flood combo is $100. Discounts are available if you look around. This includes the controller, assuming you have DMX capability.

Rainbow Flood is $35 (assembled). You also need a controller - I use an LOR DC board which is around $100 and can control 5 devices with one "spare" port. So figure $20 for control if you go LOR, or about $14 ($70/5) if you go with the Rainbow Brain, which also requires DMX.

So the RF is cheaper, the VF is (in my opinion) a bit better. I use both, so I think they are both great products.

-Tim

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I just checked with William from the TwoDogLights store to verify that it was ok to post this special discount here. And he said yes!

For members of HolidayUniversity.com only, there is a special discount. Buy a V-Drive/V-Flood combo and get $20 off the price, making your total price only $79.99 instead of $99.99 for a fully assembled/tested flood combo. All you'd need is an enclosure (most of us are using < $10 halogen work lights from the Big Box stores) and a power supply.

What is Holiday University? It's a new website/forum launched last September to provide another place to chat about all things Christmas decorating. There's been a lot of serious discussions along with some fun as well, and if you check it out you'll likely run across a lot of familiar names and faces. You'll need to have an account there to get the special discount, but even if you decide not to purchase now, why not sign up and check it out anyway?

Here's the information on the special V-Drive/V-Flood promotion: http://holidayuniversity.com/forums/index.php/topic,386.0.html (you'll need to sign up at HU to be able to follow this link)

This offer expires March 1st.

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with TwoDogLights store at all, just a happy customer.

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What cases do you use for the V Floods? Any comparisons to the Mighty Mini? I am thinking I could get the Minis in a better position with their smaller size. The rainbow flood in the 550 watt case is fairly large and awkward.

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What cases do you use for the V Floods? Any comparisons to the Mighty Mini? I am thinking I could get the Minis in a better position with their smaller size. The rainbow flood in the 550 watt case is fairly large and awkward.

As Tim mentioned most are using small cased worklights or Halogen flood housings... VFLOOD board is actually smaller than the MM, and has more LEDS! There is a thread somewhere on PC where someone made housings for floods with PVC fencepost. I am planning on making another "All in one housing" DEMO out of the fence post. (rumor is I might even give that one away at ICE!)

there is an entire thread on VDRIVE/VFLOOD that shows some of the housings that it can fit in here on PC..

Any new product info fr VDRIVE VFLOOD can be found at the link Tim posted above..

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I have the VFlood, the Rainbow, and the Aether (still in box not assembled yet). I still love the Chauvet 200Bs I have been using for 3 years.

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Do you have to have the LOR idmx1000 to control the vdrive/vflood or can it be controlled some other way? Also, can any color be generated (full RGB) with a vflood ?

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From what i have read on forums if you are using LOR software you need to have LOR idmx. If using LSP or Vixen you can control with DMX dongle.

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Yeah, I just went and read some more ... and the vdrive says it uses DMX, but appears to have a RG45 connector ... how do you get from the DMX connectors to the RJ45 connectors using DMX? My main interest in these would be to save channels (if I can replace a red, green, clear flood with a single vflood) and then free up 2 channels for every 3 I'm currently using. The only downside is I can do two colors at once, but I don't think I do that.

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Yeah, I just went and read some more ... and the vdrive says it uses DMX, but appears to have a RG45 connector ... how do you get from the DMX connectors to the RJ45 connectors using DMX? My main interest in these would be to save channels (if I can replace a red, green, clear flood with a single vflood) and then free up 2 channels for every 3 I'm currently using. The only downside is I can do two colors at once, but I don't think I do that.

Here's the first adapter I found, but there are lots of them out there. LOR has one on their site. http://www.sirs-e.com/st/rj45-male-cable-adapter-p-2944.html

Bill

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These look nice and are interesting to me ... but cost-wise ... expensive ... would be cheaper to just buy more LOR channels initially.

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Production Advantage also has a unit I use:

http://www.productionadvantageonline.com/Control-Adapters-Terminators/XLRJ45-5F.aspx

LOR's unit is cheaper that they offer.

With floods, you may not save channels using DMX. It is possible you may up your channels in so much as you have 512 when you use DMX, but you are not having to add more controllers to do it, just 1.

The advantage of DMX floods are that you will save power and gain more options. My Chauvets with all the LEDs on max out at .2ish amps, but I can also wash my house in any color I choose without having to add another LED or incandescant flood and the LOR channel to boot.

I have a cost comparison in my DMX Primer that is a bit out of date, but you can actually get cheaper cost per channel going DMX than staying with say pure LOR. This does require you take a step in to the DIY world, and run a combination of your LOR network and DMX Universe. It does require the LOR iDMX or, whatever LOR is coming up with this year on a cheaper DMX Dongle. Or just go DIY and run your LOR controllers as DMX Dimmer packs. The latest LOR firmware allows them to listen for both protocols.

The advantage I have with my set up and DMX, is that I have 2 different Color Wash IDs. So I can wash my house all blue, or a 2 color combo, say red and white, or blue and green. Adding the DMX floods was one of the best additions I made to my display.

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There is also low tech, with PAR38 LED bulbs that work with LOR.

Very high intensity and economical.

People have been using them for halloween and xmas for wash effect for years.

No adapters required, use as many channels as you have colors

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zman,

I read the chauvets do not have ability to be dimmed. Does this cause a problem? How many linear feet of wall can you wash with them? What enclosure do you place them in to seal them from the elements?

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Not sure where you read that they cannot be dimmed. They dim just fine. The only personality trait they have, is the they do not turn OFF immediately. They take 1/4 sec or so and fade off. In my case, it is not necessary for them to be immediate on/off.

Look at my website at the photos. I don't have 2010 up yet, but there are shots where you can see how much wall they wash. Wirekat uses the 200Bs to up upwash trees and the go upward to 14-15'. How far the spread is, depends on how far you place them away from your wall.

As far as enclosures, check the How-To page on my site. I show you how I enclosed mine. Others have used the technique as well. Simple, easy and in-expensive.

A suggestion is to get one. Play with it, if it is not what you want return it. That is basically what I did 5 years ago, when I started looking for LED flood alternatives, before the DIY explosion hit.

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Is it fair to say that when LOR comes out with it's floods that they will be the best bet to use if you are already using LOR? Not nearly as familiar with the info in this post so my comment may be out of place. And I guess another issue is will LOR be releasing the LED floods and software to use this year?

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zman,

I bought a Chauvet Splash 200B from Ebay for $109 free shipping to try out. Thanks for the info. Great enclosure idea. I can just tell my wife I am not working on Christmas lights, I'm planting flowers for the spring. As far as the dimming, the manual states do not plug it into power that has been dimmed, but your right it has dimming capability via DMX commands.

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There is also low tech, with PAR38 LED bulbs that work with LOR.

Very high intensity and economical.

People have been using them for halloween and xmas for wash effect for years.

No adapters required, use as many channels as you have colors

Corey,

When is your pre order sale? I use the par 38 floods and are quite happy with them. I would like to order a few more.

Thanks,

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Not sure where you read that they cannot be dimmed. They dim just fine. The only personality trait they have, is the they do not turn OFF immediately. They take 1/4 sec or so and fade off. In my case, it is not necessary for them to be immediate on/off.

Look at my website at the photos. I don't have 2010 up yet, but there are shots where you can see how much wall they wash. Wirekat uses the 200Bs to up upwash trees and the go upward to 14-15'. How far the spread is, depends on how far you place them away from your wall.

As far as enclosures, check the How-To page on my site. I show you how I enclosed mine. Others have used the technique as well. Simple, easy and in-expensive.

A suggestion is to get one. Play with it, if it is not what you want return it. That is basically what I did 5 years ago, when I started looking for LED flood alternatives, before the DIY explosion hit.

Mark,

You don't live in a house you live in a castle. I would like to know where you get the garage door covers.

Terry

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Corey,

When is your pre order sale? I use the par 38 floods and are quite happy with them. I would like to order a few more.

Thanks,

Yes I would also like to know cuz I think I'll try led spots this year, that way i don't have to fuss with any boards housings and such.......I guess I'm just lookng for the simple way to do things

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