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LOR & MAC (can't believe this)

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Just received a sock in the stomach when I just realized that LOR can not be used with MAC. I was planning on doing my first computerized show for 2011. Any suggestions besides getting a new PC? :confused:

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What about using VMWare on the Mac to create a virtual machine running Windows? I guess technically, you'd need to have a valid license of Windows in order to do that though.

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I am running LOR S2 (demo) under VMWare Fusion and TinyXP and it runs quite well for sequencing on my Macbook 2.2ghz dual core with 4gb RAM. I have not ordered my first controller yet, so I can't say how well the Mac will do for running shows. Actually, I have an old PC I plan on dedicating to running shows. BTW, TinyXP is a highly stripped down install of XP so that you can keep the installation as small (and as lean) as possible. Fusion can be found for as little as $70. There is also an Apple product called BootCamp which allows you to start your Mac as though it were a PC (no Mac OS loads, nothing running under emulation). I think it's free, but again, you have to have a Windows OS to install to use it (TinyXP should work here as well). Fusion is pretty nice to have, we run PC Quicken (far better than Mac Quicken) in a window along with all our Mac software and switch back and forth, drag and drop from Mac to PC. I can even run my PC-based CAD and video editing applications (pretty demanding stuff) on Fusion, so it's pretty robust.

Of course, you could just hit a few yardsales this spring, or check out CraigsList, and pick up a PC capable of running LOR for about the same amount of money as Fusion.

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Of course, you could just hit a few yardsales this spring, or check out CraigsList, and pick up a PC capable of running LOR for about the same amount of money as Fusion.

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This is true. I would suggest getting a netbook for your sequencing and to run your show. I bought on from Amazon for under $150, and it works great for shows. The worse part about it is the small screen, which you get used to, or you can plug it into a monitor. I used my netbook to run my Halloween and Christmas show this past year, granted they were nothing big, but it worked without a problem.

Just a note, if you do want to buy a netbook, get one that has XP on it and not Vista or Windows 7 because Vista and 7 will use all the computers memory, causing LOR to run show on it, so I would say XP is your best shot. Hope this helps.

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u can always "run" your show from a mini d/c thats what i use cause i want access to laptop

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u can always "run" your show from a mini d/c thats what i use cause i want access to laptop

Totally agree! I am happy to sequence on my Macbook: light, portable, my little silicon friend... but I sure don't want her (yes, my Macbook is a her, what of it?) tied up all season to a cable running into the yard! I will press an old, disused PC into that service.

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I do all my sequencing in Windows XP running in VirtualBox (Free, open-source VMware/Parallels like porgram) on my MacBook Pro. It works great, and I can run the show to test from the MacBook Pro as well.

I run my show from a 500MHz Dell Latitude I bought on eBay when I started with LOR, but unfortunately it's not very good at handling playing music and running 96 channels on two networks at the same time, so it gets upgraded for 2011. Perhaps to a netbook, but I'll most likely build a PC out of spare parts I have laying around.

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Chance,

have you looked at XLights at all for running the show? I've never used it, nor do I plan to, but I stumbled across it the other day and found it intriguing. It's an open source project on Sourceforge and I believe their is a Mac distribution.

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I just wanted to chime back in now that I am running a licensed version of LOR Basic Plus and have received my first controller. LOR runs like a champ and drives the controller without issue under VMWare Fusion on my MacBook. I am using the USB with booster to make the connection and had no problems loading the driver or getting LOR to access the controller. Im very pleased that I won't have to spend much time at all chained to a PC.

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I'm not a Mac user, but did not want to tie up a home desktop or the home laptop for the LOR. (yeah new this year also to LOR).

Anyways Picked up an old laptop IBM640 for $50 running XP 3.

Work Great so far and I also back up all my files onto a portable hard drive i picked up for another 50.

Biger layouts I have a 23" monitor to do sequencing on (120) , and I run the visualizer on the lap top.

So far it has been workng awsome, cheap and its a stand alone. No other garbage on it, just all the LOR Stuff

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Well I'm a faithful Mac user and I ran my entire show this year from a 2.4 ghz dual core MacBook Pro w/ 4GB Ram running straight XP Pro on Parallels (v. 5 I think) & LOR S2. I had no timing or musical issues. In fact the system worked better than the old Pentium 4 I had sitting in the garage for the task. I'm sequencing everything this year on a new quad core 27" imac (8GB RAM) w/ a dual 27" screen I got for Christmas!! It's a dream. I've never had such real estate and considering that I do most of my work in Windows and over Citrix VPN (I work mostly from home as an IT consultant) in OSX or Parallels Windows I have no issues. I can attribute 4GB to Windows in Parallels itself with no issues even running demanding applications like AutoCad.

On the show computer (Macbook Pro) I attributed 2GB of the 4 to Windows/Parallels, that made everything run smoothly.

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you could use bootcamp that comes with your mac too which is free. you still would need to buy the windows OS tho

Bootcamp is the way to go. Most people don't realize that you can run windows natively on a mac.

I tried running S2 under VMWare Fusion on my old mac mini (OSX 10.6) and it won't run. Gives some error about unavailable port drivers and crashes.

For running shows I use the DC-MP3 - eliminates the potential for laptop or pc crashing and eliminated the need to run a cable into the house/building.

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Bootcamp is the way to go. Most people don't realize that you can run windows natively on a mac.

I tried running S2 under VMWare Fusion on my old mac mini (OSX 10.6) and it won't run. Gives some error about unavailable port drivers and crashes.

For running shows I use the DC-MP3 - eliminates the potential for laptop or pc crashing and eliminated the need to run a cable into the house/building.

I just want to reiterate that despite Darrens problems, I am running S2 under VMWare Fusion without any problems, even driving my lights via USB. I have a 2.4ghz MacBook running Snow Leopard and run a very small install of XP called TinyXP. I can also run LightshowPro and Holiday Lights Designer with all the same problems folks on a PC have!

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I'm sure I'm really late on this response but if you have the PC controller (IMO the easiest) then you don't want to run your lights off of it all season because then you won't be able to use. What I have done is I use Parallels (or bootcamp which is free and an option on your Mac) which allows me to program my lights on my common computer and when the time comes to hook everything up, I transfer it all to the only Gateway computer and create a show on it. You don't want to run your show off your make unless you're willing to give up your Mac every night your show is on... In short, get Parallels (which allows you to run Windows and Mac OSX at the same time but it costs money to purchase this program) or you can Bootcamp your computer (which is an option built into your Mac that you select how much of your hard drive to partition for Windows use. The only problem is is that you have to shut down your computer and restart it and select the Windows start up as opposed to the Mac start up. But it is free) Hope this helps

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