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Leds In Blow Molds

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Does anyone or can you put replaceable LED Bulbs in Blow Molds with the wires and sockets that originally come in the Molds? If so, where can I get them? Looking to save as much energy as possible in my 6 Candles.

Thanks in advance.

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Does anyone or can you put replaceable LED Bulbs in Blow Molds with the wires and sockets that originally come in the Molds? If so, where can I get them? Looking to save as much energy as possible in my 6 Candles.

I think the feedback so far is that LED bulbs don't do a good job of lighting up 'molds. Most of the "white" bulbs are that funky blue color. Why don't you just put lower wattage incandescent bulbs in your candles? If you have the medium base sockets (standard household bulb size) then you can get 15 or 25 watt bulbs (or less). (Actually you should never use bulbs over 25 watts in candles because they get too hot and will shorten the life of the flame.) If you have the candelabra base sockets (C7 or nightlight size bulb) then you are only talking about 5 or 7 watts anyway so I would just leave well enough alone.

TED

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Does anyone or can you put replaceable LED Bulbs in Blow Molds with the wires and sockets that originally come in the Molds? If so, where can I get them? Looking to save as much energy as possible in my 6 Candles.

Thanks in advance.

I use cfl in my molds with the medium sized bases (lamp sized bases), and I use a higher wattage than called for since they don't produce much heat. They looked great. The only draw back is on very cold nights they take a little while to get up to full illumination, and they act really freaky when you try to dim them. As far as the c-7 type bases for molds, you can buy retro led bulbs from vendors that have 3 leds in them, instead of one. They are much brighter, and if you get warm white, it doesn't have that pesky blue cast.

Bill

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I use CFL bulbs in all my molds to save energy.

I've tried LED's in molds and due to not having enough brightness, I have ended up going with CFL's in the molds as well. For the C7 size I use candelabra/C7 size CFL's so I get more illumination than an incandescent C7 for less wattage, the only issue I have is that for some molds there's no way to get the candelabra CFL into the mold since they're wider than a C7 incandescent. If there's no hole at the bottom of the mold to get them through then I'm left with enlarging the C7-intended hole which I won't do, or rigging up something to get the CFL light into the mold even though the candelabra CFL doesn't fit all the way through it.

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For my larger molds, I use the 40 W Chandelier bulbs LED's from Costco, they come in a 6-pack, and they have adapters to fit both sizes of bases,

so I use them as much as possible, yes the light may be brighter than the regular bulbs, but they work well. I really like this option

because I screw in the larger base to the light kit, then screw in the light. This elimates the need to cut the top of plastic on the light kit like

you have to do with regular LED lights.

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Getting back on topic, yes one can use LED bulbs in blowmolds. As has been pointed out, they are not very bright, so I limit their use to the smallest molds only (like 12 or 13" snowmen, Santas and such). My display had about a dozen seated bears this year, each with a C7 LED bulb, and in aggregate they looked pretty good together. I've played around with using multiple bulbs in a single 'mold, but have not been very satisfied.

I have only seen screw-in LED C7s in two places: Menards (sorry, non-Midwesterners!) where they sell year-round in 2-packs for about $6, or at Christmas time for $12 for 10. This past year I saw very few stocked, so they may be on the way out. The second place I've seen them is at a garden shop near Waukegan,IL a couple of years ago around Christmas. They were about $4 each. Needless to say, I have stocked up on the cheaper Menards ones.

Examples:

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The "pathway markers" out front are all lit by Menards C7s, as are several of the smaller blow molds.

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Most of the Christmas village uses LED C7s, except for the large molds.

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This is a picture comparison of the same snowfolks 4 with LEDs and one with a normal C7 incan...

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I have tried some I bought at Wal-Mart but haven't been happy with the brightness. To be fair, most of my molds are Halloween, so the darker colors may have something to do with it. FWIW, I had no problem finding White (no blue tint) C7 night light bulbs in the lighting section at Wally World.

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I wanst happy with the ones I got and tried to use either. The picture surely tells why! And those were the "best and brightest" ... : (

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I've been getting everything ready for setup (I'm planning to start the first weekend in November) and I purchased a bunch of dimmable C7 led cool white retrofit bulbs. I tried the led bulbs in a few and compared them to the regular bulbs. I think it really comes down to the individual blowmold as to which is best. Smaller, lighter colored blowmolds may look better with the leds. In an Empire sheep, I couldn't really tell any difference in brightness, but the "whiter" led looked a lot better. In an 18" GV angel, the led looked better. However, in a GV reindeer, the regular bulb looked a LOT better (much brighter and better color). I think the best way to approach using an LED bulb in a blowmold is the "effect" - does it improve the "look". Don't even worry about any energy savings.

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i use the cfl bulbs in all my molds, just have to test the wattage or some will glow so bright it washes out the color. Most are the substitute for the 25 watt incandescents. i have not used c7 leds in my molds or inflatables. LED's are now more common on emergency vehicles but the led shines in a straight beam and does not reflect out like halogen or incandescents and like pictured above on the snowmen you can see the straight beam of light on the led and the incandescent difference

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Fireman yeah it really comes down to candlepower and lumens. LED's are great for candlepower rating and CFL, incans are better creating lumen ratings. Try buying a flashlight or spotlight anymore! They are rated two or three different ways lol

Jim

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My Menards just started carrying 25 watt CFL bulbs and I used them in all of a neighbor's molds when he contracted me out to repair them all and put new bulbs in. They use only 4 watts, less than a C7! They're not as warm looking as incandescants, but if you switch them all over, most normal viewers wouldn't notice the difference, it's actually not that bad. I'm really picky about that stuff, and it dosen't bother me too much so you should be fine lol. They have about a 1-2 min warmup time, but if you bring everything on a little earlier than usual, they'll all be bright by the time they're usually on. You're saving a ton of energy with them, so the earlier on time shouldn't matter too much either. The only other problem I had when installing them in my neighbor's Halloween molds was that some of the newer ones had the long "Type A Bulb" sockets that GF currently uses, and the ballast didn't fit in the socket, so I just shaved off the extra plastic with my Dremmel and now they're fine. Personally, if I didn't run a computerized show with all the fading and blinking, I'd switch all mine over to the CFL's, they're a pretty decent replacement. I actually just got a set of candles today and tried one with a CFL and it fits and looks fine, so maybe that's what you're looking for. Hope that helps!

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I've bought C7 LED bulbs at Walmart (2 for $3) and they come in colors - blue, green and white. I've used these bulbs in my pumpkin lamp post (white) and in a couple of skulls (green) and they work great. I think for your candles you could use the white LED's and they will look fine. As fireman said, the LED's tend to have a straight beam and that should work out fine in the top of a candle. If you're not sure, then buy a package of bulbs and try it out. If it doesn't work out for you, then just return the bulbs to the store.

I really like the comparison photos that cars06 posted. It's really great to be able to see the difference on the same mold - so thanks for posting the pics.

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This is a picture comparison of the same snowfolks 4 with LEDs and one with a normal C7 incan...

I wanst happy with the ones I got and tried to use either. The picture surely tells why! And those were the "best and brightest" ... : (

Thanks for posting that. The LED lit ones look terrible! They are blue and not very well lit!

TED

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I have only seen screw-in LED C7s in two places: Menards (sorry, non-Midwesterners!) where they sell year-round in 2-packs for about $6, or at Christmas time for $12 for 10. This past year I saw very few stocked, so they may be on the way out. The second place I've seen them is at a garden shop near Waukegan,IL a couple of years ago around Christmas. They were about $4 each. Needless to say, I have stocked up on the cheaper Menards ones.

The "pathway markers" out front are all lit by Menards C7s, as are several of the smaller blow molds.

Most of the Christmas village uses LED C7s, except for the large molds.

Do you think that you save $1.20 to $3.00 of electricity per item lit with the LED bulb? They still look blue to me. I wonder if it is less noticeable when you see it in person rather than in a picture. Yours look like they lit up the 'molds better than the ones in the picture that Jim posted so that's good.

TED

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Ted I agree they do look better in hoyts picture but they are still blue and no comparison to a normal C7. And to your point on electric used I tend to agree on it also. If I changed all the bulbs in just my halloween molds to CFL or LED.. It would cost me somewhere between 200.00 and 400.00. And seeing we can buy 40 watt incans 4 for 1.00 its hard to justify the cost of the CFL bulbs. We can also buy C7 incans 4 for 1.00. And hey I dont have to call a hazmat team out to clean up if I drop and break a incan lol So you CAN save the environment with a CFL and destroy it with a CFL!!! Amazing.

Really I've never paid much attention to the effects on the electric bill considering what lights I run at Christmas.. Its about the same in January with no lights asit is in December with lights?

Jim

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