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I am going to change my mini tree and grid setup to a RGB setup. My old setup was 16 mini trees and had a grid or line of lights going out to each tree;

 

 

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With my new setup I am going to use 5050 dumb strips similar to this for the grid lines;

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC12V-5m-one-roll-5050-SMD-30LEDs-m-led-strip-waterproof-by-silicon-tube-IP66/587735379.html

 

I will use the full 16ft length for each line.  I am not completely sure, but will probably use some of the RGB dumb pixels like these;

http://www.diyledexpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=190

for the mini trees (some type of coro style)...possibly the older coro trees from holidaycoro or some sort of 5050 modules with either a cone design ;

http://www.facebook.com/computerizedchristmas/photos_stream (but not as fancy as these...cheap coro, wood bottom and maybe 3 or 4 5050 modules...will be just as bright).  Also have looked at this as well;  http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?20362-New-Mini-Tree-Design.

 

So...here we go.  I was thinking about using two of these;

http://www.holidaycoro.com/27-Channel-DMX-Controller-for-RGB-Lights-12v-DC-p/24.htm 

However I am afraid that this may not have enough amp handling for for every things to be turned on full white.

 

Also am looking for suggestions of power supplies. I have converted several computer supplies, but was thinking that a water proof supply might be better.

 

?????? Suggestions??????

 

Robert

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Bob, I found this video on YouTube with interesting Coro mini trees.



There are other versions I've seen.  Some have just replaced the minis or LED's with a dumb string or RGB's.  Just requires more 4 core wire to make those long runs that you have.  Personally though, I love how you used the light strings as your "extension cords".  Helps light the ground up and looks great.

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Perfect!

That is  what I am wanting to see.  Different versions of RGB dumb (or smart) pixel examples!  I wanted to see some examples just to see how people filled them in, how bright they were, etc. I wonder what those trees would look like with the 50 rgb's spread out? 

 

If anyone else has examples of RGB mini trees....bring it on :-)

 

On the "extension cords", the way my yard is... I had a canvas to work with. It more wide than deep.  One year I did the light "extension cords" vertically instead of like a sunburst. It was an optical illusion how really long those things were.  Putting it into the sunburst added some depth to the yard I really don't have :-)  I just hope I don't loose that depth when I cut each one of those legs by 3 feet...since what you see is 19 feet :-(

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Million Color RGB MiniTree

RGB CoroTree (watch assembly video at end for sample)

 

We at HolidayCoro are also working on a version of our mini light coro tree that holes 12mm RGB nodes also.

I actually have 5 of the Walmart trees. Was and still might change over my Holdman trees to those (Million Color RGB Minitree). When I found out Walmart in our area was putting on sale at 75% off, I went around to all the Walmarts to find more. No luck. *I would do those if I could find more of those I would buy them.*

 

My budget is somewhat limited. So I am I am waiting on your new mini tree design with baited breath ;-) 

 

I am wanting to use one leg of the grid and the connected mini tree on 3 channels. I don't know "amp wise" if any of the controllers can handle that?  I am open to 5050 strips or dump pixels. Was going to use several of the 27 channel controllers...but again not sure if each channel can handle that. Also know it has a 15amp limit.

 

Are limits on what those controllers can do verses the LOR  controllers???

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Simple way is rgb dumb pixels and small 3 channel controllers (David at Holiday Coro has both). I made Eight two foot white trees (cost about $5.00 each for the trees from Big Lots) and wraped them with 25 dump pixels and one of the 3 channel controllers for each tree.  Shared one 30 amp power supply for all each set of 4 trees (due to spacing not power consumption).  Each of the 8 trees were a stand alone setup (except combined power and dmx signal cable) worked very well and cost was minimal  ($40.00 per tree total). and each tree was comletely controllable as a single unit with any of the 16mil colors.

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Simple way is rgb dumb pixels and small 3 channel controllers (David at Holiday Coro has both). I made Eight two foot white trees (cost about $5.00 each for the trees from Big Lots) and wraped them with 25 dump pixels and one of the 3 channel controllers for each tree.  Shared one 30 amp power supply for all each set of 4 trees (due to spacing not power consumption).  Each of the 8 trees were a stand alone setup (except combined power and dmx signal cable) worked very well and cost was minimal  ($40.00 per tree total). and each tree was comletely controllable as a single unit with any of the 16mil colors.

 

I would love to see these in action. Do you have any videos???  Since I already have 5 of the 4 ft trees... would like to go with those if I could find them. Still am open to others since I had originally planned on using those to change out the twig trees.

Videos and pictures????

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Hey Robert,

 

For power I use a PC power supply mounted in a CG1500 case - http://wlcventures.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3

I removed the case on the power supply and the cooling fan, there was just the PC board mounted to the standoffs. It worked very well and stayed dry.

 

Lee

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Hey Robert,

 

For power I use a PC power supply mounted in a CG1500 case - http://wlcventures.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3

I removed the case on the power supply and the cooling fan, there was just the PC board mounted to the standoffs. It worked very well and stayed dry.

 

Lee

I used one PC power supply for my dmx stuff last year and your right, it did work well. However it wasn't in a case like yours. Do you have any pics you could share??? 

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Robert,

 

Here is a picture of the CG1500 with my P12R controller and a 450 Watt PC power supply. I powered 7 strips and the controller with no problem. I added the power cord plug to the bottom of the CG1500.  I used the one I removed from the power supply case, then dremeled out a hole. It worked great!

 

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Sweet Lee :-)

Nice idea.  I might just have to copy your idea!  Now, yard sales for old computers ;-) 

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I would love to see these in action. Do you have any videos???  Since I already have 5 of the 4 ft trees... would like to go with those if I could find them. Still am open to others since I had originally planned on using those to change out the twig trees.

Videos and pictures????

Thought I had some video's. but have not been able to find. They are strill strung up in storage.  I'll pull a few of them out and take some picks.  Give me a couple of days.  At the end of last season I got six 6' white pvc tree's that I hope to add this comming year.  I'll post some video on you tube with a link.

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Thought I had some video's. but have not been able to find. They are strill strung up in storage.  I'll pull a few of them out and take some picks.  Give me a couple of days.  At the end of last season I got six 6' white pvc tree's that I hope to add this comming year.  I'll post some video on you tube with a link.

Jerrymac you made my day!  I am leaning more in this direction. Have one guy in ATL on Craigslist that I have been trying to back with him...but no luck.  If nothing else, I might change out my twig trees with these. Spring is in the air (oh...I guess that is just pollen ;-) and want to get building!  Send the links when you can.

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David at Holiday Coro has a pic of what mine look like (  http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/384.htm  ).

Here is a site I also got a couple from,  they have sales all the time.   (  http://shop.christmascentral.com/Store/Search.aspx?&Page=1&Sort=5&key=white&scat=23284    )

 The stand on them and the others I got really really suck, I mount them in a piece of 1X12 with a hole drilled in the center to give them some stability,  the clip on 3 leg style is not at all stable.

will get video of sequenced song with a few of them in the next couple of days.

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David at Holiday Coro has a pic of what mine look like (  http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/384.htm  ).

Here is a site I also got a couple from,  they have sales all the time.   (  http://shop.christmascentral.com/Store/Search.aspx?&Page=1&Sort=5&key=white&scat=23284    )

 The stand on them and the others I got really really suck, I mount them in a piece of 1X12 with a hole drilled in the center to give them some stability,  the clip on 3 leg style is not at all stable.

will get video of sequenced song with a few of them in the next couple of days.

Oh man!  Didn't know about this place! This a great resource for those trees. I was familiar with David's site and honestly that is what turned me on to this topic. Really more than ever want to see your videos! ;-)  Even just a raw form of would be great. I honestly don't want them to small, but the 4' ones I have now are really too big for that arc I use in my setup. Curious which one of those trees you got?  I saw this one ;

http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/darice%20tn60-61w?sck=111626&caSKU=darice%20tn60-61w&caTitle=2%27%20White%20Canadian%20Pine%20Artificial%20Christmas%20Tree%20-%20Unlit

and these...since I would be buying a larger amount;

http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/dksa%20tr2155w?sck=111626&caSKU=dksa%20tr2155w&caTitle=Club%20Pack%20of%2012%20Shiny%20White%2018%22%20Mini%20Christmas%20Trees%20-%20Unlit

 

I would probably take rebar and just bound it in the ground...and put them on that. Probably would raise them up 6 or 8" off the ground as well. Also going to look at their return policy. Might order several singles...and see what might work best. 

 

Having to be hall monitor during the standardized testing our kids are taking...and doing my homework here will help pass the time ;-)

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Robert,

 

Here is a picture of the CG1500 with my P12R controller and a 450 Watt PC power supply. I powered 7 strips and the controller with no problem. I added the power cord plug to the bottom of the CG1500.  I used the one I removed from the power supply case, then dremeled out a hole. It worked great!

 

Leeattachicon.gifP12R and Power Supply in CG1500 case.jpgattachicon.gifpower plug added.jpg

 

Lee where did you find that power plug?

 

P.S. you coming to C.L.A.P. this year?

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Oh man!  Didn't know about this place! This a great resource for those trees. I was familiar with David's site and honestly that is what turned me on to this topic. Really more than ever want to see your videos! ;-)  Even just a raw form of would be great. I honestly don't want them to small, but the 4' ones I have now are really too big for that arc I use in my setup. Curious which one of those trees you got?  I saw this one ;

http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/darice%20tn60-61w?sck=111626&caSKU=darice%20tn60-61w&caTitle=2%27%20White%20Canadian%20Pine%20Artificial%20Christmas%20Tree%20-%20Unlit

and these...since I would be buying a larger amount;

http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/dksa%20tr2155w?sck=111626&caSKU=dksa%20tr2155w&caTitle=Club%20Pack%20of%2012%20Shiny%20White%2018%22%20Mini%20Christmas%20Trees%20-%20Unlit

 

I would probably take rebar and just bound it in the ground...and put them on that. Probably would raise them up 6 or 8" off the ground as well. Also going to look at their return policy. Might order several singles...and see what might work best. 

 

Having to be hall monitor during the standardized testing our kids are taking...and doing my homework here will help pass the time ;-)

 

 I got these on sale for $9.99  and they matched the ones I got from the dollar store (think it was family dollar).  Thet are shapped like a real tree and look like a flocked tree even fairly closely.  The branchs fill out very well.  You can not see the trunk through the branchs they are so full.  while writing this I Found the original invoice  they are SKU #23842284 (not listed now), they are 2 foot verisions of this one  (http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/vickerman%20a104030?sck=5877163&caSKU=vickerman%20a104030&caTitle=2.5%27%20White%20Sparkle%20Spruce%20Pencil%20Artificial%20Christmas%20Tree%20-%20Unlit )

I'll have some quick video sunday.  they are actually made from PVC but look pretty good and fold up fairly small when not in use.  But HORID stand system.

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Those are full in the center. You read my mind there. I don't like the ones that are real skinny. Like the needles too.  Thanks so much getting that video together. Funds are limited and I have already spent some money on some stuff...that I won't be using :-(  Don't want to waste my "Light Funds" ;-)

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I like the Holiday Coro tree listed above http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/220.htm... Something is wrong with the price
"our price" = $11.99
"pre season price" = $14.99
I want them at the 11.99 price ;) haha



Could use these modules from Ray http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/promotion-5050-SMD-RGB-LED-module-DC12V-input-waterproof-20pcs-a-string/701799_423204013.html
They are only $9.00 for 20 pieces!  They use .72w of power and you could run them on Ray's 27 channel board with ease at .4 max amps per channel (after calculations)

I do like the 2' trees... but I'm going to let you in on a secret.  I have used the white 4' trees from Walmart for the past 5 years.  I threw out 6 of them because they were shedding the little white bristles.  I suggest finding the twig trees... I seem to recall someone finding them in China without the lights on them.  If that is the case, that would be perfect for you.  I was lucky this year and found 9 of them at Home Depot for $20 each (plus military discount). So my entire Walmart White Tree Line will be gone come 2013.  I have a mess in the mulch out front to clean up because those six trees started to deteriorate.  I did love them tho...

 

As far as Ray's board... it is a 15a max board with a total of 1A/channel max.  Just so you have the idea, if you ran 9 of those holiday coro trees with 20 nodes, you'd only pull a max of 3.6 amps.  Total amps on the board would = 10.8amps  Not too bad.


 

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Short demo of 2 foot mini RGB tree's

 

these are 2 foot white PVC trees with 25 basic (dumb) rgb modules each with an individual 3 channel controller for each tree.  Power by 12 volt supply.  All items available from Holliday coro except the tree's. (see above post) for post of where the trees are available.

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Oh Man!

I like it, I like it!!!!

 

Think this might be the way I am going to go. And man... only 25 nodes.  That means my 4ft trees could get by with 50 nodes. Like it, I like it!

 

I will sleep tonight with RGB mini trees dancing in my head ;-)

 

Jerrymac thanks so much.

 

 

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Here is a pic of my 8 Holiday Coro RGB Mini Trees.  Also have a link to my vids to see them in action.  Used the standard Holiday Coro setup using Holiday Coro Power Supplies and power injected through Cat-5.

 

https://vimeo.com/54788088

 

 

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David at Holiday Coro has a pic of what mine look like (  http://www.holidaycoro.com/product-p/384.htm  ).

Here is a site I also got a couple from,  they have sales all the time.   (  http://shop.christmascentral.com/Store/Search.aspx?&Page=1&Sort=5&key=white&scat=23284    )

 The stand on them and the others I got really really suck, I mount them in a piece of 1X12 with a hole drilled in the center to give them some stability,  the clip on 3 leg style is not at all stable.

will get video of sequenced song with a few of them in the next couple of days.

Can't thank you enough for that video. Like I said it sold me and now I am "Full In" after purchasing some 2ft ones from Clyde. He had 9 of these...I need more now. Was just getting ready to pull the trigger when I noticed that Christmascentral.com's were 65 tips, where as the ones I got from Clyde are 85 tips. Will be getting 7 more of these trees. Especially since I just put in the order with Ray for all the dumb pixels to match the number of trees (16)!  Is yours mixed and matched or are they all the same?  I could just shove the branches forward to create the "more branches" look...but wanted to check first.

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