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On 12/14/2017 at 6:28 PM, sathya44 said:

Hello Everybody. I've heard no updates from General Foam.  I've gone to the GF website.  It's still the same.  There are no updates.  The website doesn't say GFP closing.  Maybe things have changed.  The General Foam blow mold catalog is the same.  Let's still remain hopeful they find a buyer.  In fact, I'm planning to start a blow mold business myself with other partners.  I know that I'll succeed.  

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https://www.indeed.com/cmp/General-Foam-Plastics/reviews?start=20

General Foam Employee reviews...a few common denominators in the comments are: low pay (no raises), hot work conditions, bad managment and short breaks.

Souns like a sweat shop...literally. Haha.

I suppose they had to keep wages down due to competition from mexico and china.

 

More of the same here:

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/General-Foam-Plastics-Reviews-E763475_P2.htm

 

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such a sad article, although I am a huge fan of blow molds and pretty much any plastic based product they produced, I'm an even bigger fan of American jobs. One point in the article stated that the Mexico plant had found a buyer and most of the employees have been called back, its tragic that a buyer could not be found for this plant and those guys get called back, new products developed, raises, 401k, etc. I wonder if the primary investors were tired of loss? tired of holding stock? Made the money they wanted? was the plant in poor condition, machinery out of date with little or no replacement parts available? We may never know, but what we do know is (as the article states) over a hundred employees are wondering what to do, how to pay the bills, etc. 

Like I stated above I'm a huge fan of blow molds, I love them for most any holiday, They have a "old time" feel to them and I reflect on my grandparents decorations from days gone by. Let us not forget the people who lost their way of life with this closing, pray for their guidance through difficult times (if any should arise from this) and even though it sounds silly, or childish, look at all of your vast mold collection (or small one like mine) and take this into consideration, someone, paid their rent making that candle, someone bought their first car making that Nativity set, someone bought groceries making the camel that you are so proud of. Not sure about you guys but each and every piece in my collection has a story to tell, that I didn't hear before, and what I took for granted with the "I'll just buy another one"  attitude, just got a little more sacred to me. Im sure there will be an out pour of new molds from various companies in the near future, and that's great....but they most likely wont have American blood, sweat and tears embedded in each and every one of them. 

Well, I have ranted long enough, my wife says I let the closing get to me because it happened a few states over and because Christmas was involved. Thanks for reading...Don

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5 hours ago, Scrooge said:

You think this closing was bad...try driving through detroit sometime. 

trust me I have seen Detroit and it's tragic as well, I think gf closing got next to me like my wife said, it's close to home and Christmas related. Hopefully a new business will grow in that building soon and get everyone back on track. 

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While taking down the Santa Sleigh and reindeer....saw the GFP stamp....sad!

 

also got me thinking...we have all this Coro stuff for RGBs, but there are no blowmolds designed to fit the pixels.  I have gutted previous blowmolds to convert them over to RGBs.  

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On 1/11/2018 at 8:09 PM, qberg said:

that guy in Minn has a bunch in that $15k lot he is selling.   They will show up.

What are you talking about?

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19 hours ago, RichardG said:


Not sure what you’re referring to, but says page can’t be found

It is a PC link that has been commented on daily for over a week so not sure why you can't open it.....working fine for me.  Try this link to the craigslist ad I was referencing.

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/for/d/blowmolds-for-sale-blow-molds/6443988204.html

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Has there been any activity concerning the molds at Gen Foam?  Any info at all?

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21 minutes ago, Knight said:

I'm hoping we finally found out exactly what molds they've had all these years.

That would be so amazing, but I don't think that is going to happen.  For some weird reason they keep that info locked up like it would end mankind if it got out.  I don't understand why :( .....it's not like another company is going to come along and steal the designs to make the same blow molds.

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I have to agree with Donna, we still don't know what Union Products molds exist let alone what there originally were and the original UP has been gone for 11 years and has had two new owners since then.  For that matter we don't know what still exists of the Drainage Industries, Grand Venture and TPI molds or who has most of those either.  GFP at least at one point had their original molds and the Beco, Empire, Poloron, and at least some of the Dapol, Lidco and Bayshore molds but we have no way of knowing how many of each companies molds they have/had.

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Does anyone live close enough to go to the auction?   They usually have at least one "preview day" for potential buyers to look at what is up for auction.  Someone could inventory them, or snap a LOT of photos to share here on PC.   I have been to a couple of auctions and just about anything is ok.  Opening boxes, cleaning off to find part numbers, taking pics - in many cases it is the only way a buyer can be sure of exactly what he is bidding on.    Anyone heard of who the auctioneers are ?   They may have a website too, listing the items.  It gives them a better pool of buyers that way.

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10 hours ago, Mel Fischer said:

I have to agree with Donna, we still don't know what Union Products molds exist let alone what there originally were and the original UP has been gone for 11 years and has had two new owners since then.  For that matter we don't know what still exists of the Drainage Industries, Grand Venture and TPI molds or who has most of those either.  GFP at least at one point had their original molds and the Beco, Empire, Poloron, and at least some of the Dapol, Lidco and Bayshore molds but we have no way of knowing how many of each companies molds they have/had.

Mel

 

I wonder if they even know what they have.  

 

1 hour ago, WLND-DAVID said:

Does anyone live close enough to go to the auction?   They usually have at least one "preview day" for potential buyers to look at what is up for auction.  Someone could inventory them, or snap a LOT of photos to share here on PC.   I have been to a couple of auctions and just about anything is ok.  Opening boxes, cleaning off to find part numbers, taking pics - in many cases it is the only way a buyer can be sure of exactly what he is bidding on.    Anyone heard of who the auctioneers are ?   They may have a website too, listing the items.  It gives them a better pool of buyers that way.

 

Do they normally let anyone participate?  

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When I last chatted with one of the head people he and his team were still working on getting an official list of all the aluminum molds. From what he said the auction would not be open to the public, only to businesses, but things could have changed regarding that.


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1 hour ago, RichardG said:

When I last chatted with one of the head people he and his team were still working on getting an official list of all the aluminum molds. From what he said the auction would not be open to the public, only to businesses, but things could have changed regarding that.


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Ok, this kind of sums up what we've talked about......If they are still working on getting an official list of the molds that could indicate that there was no official list up until now.  

I wonder if it has to be manufacturing businesses only?  It would be funny if someone who owns a deli or a gas station could get into the auction just to watch and find out what happens.

Richard,  WLND-David above says that sometimes the auctioneer has a website that will post what's being auctioned.  Do you know who the auctioneer will be?

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Donna,

As an example, here is a link to Orbitbid:  https://www.orbitbid.com/    

They are just one of I'm sure several auction houses with websites.   I have bid a couple times with them, even won a few things.  The point is they have the website to get as many bidders as possible, that creates more bids, which generates more money for the seller (and commission for them).  You will notice they show all the lots on the website and encourage bidders to come for inspections of the assets.  In their case, bidding is ONLY done via on-line bidding & payment must be made before pick-ups (no payments can be made at the auction site)  What is nice in this case is that you cannot be sniped like on e-Bay.  They call it Dynamic Bidding. The auction extends for 10 minutes after each bid past the original deadline, allowing active bidding to continue.  If it goes for 10 minutes without a bid, the high bid wins.

David

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