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Smart light sequencing theory

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I'm doing three new songs this year:

Sequencing gets EXHAUSTING!
I'm wondering, does anyone have any good links for smart light sequencing theory? So many of the videos are about how to use the software, I'm just looking for a good discussion thread or video on the method of light effect and color changes...

Yes, I know it's a highly subjective topic, and yes I understand we've just got to find our nitch in how to do it... but there has got to be some basic theory discussion out there. Anyone come across some?

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This is my 7th year using LOR software and you are correct, sequencing gets exhausting especially when your display grows every year and even more so if you have any props that you want to lip sync the lyrics to. This year is my largest show with 15 Cat 5 devices on 2 com networks, the Mega tree with its 8 controllers on another network and a intranet connection coming off my router switch to the Pixcon 16 running 4 animated faces and a 5 row RGB star topper. All in all, just under 30,000 lights.

I have tried, in vain, to find any real shortcuts but am relying more and more on Tapper Wizard and the Beat Wizard in the LOR software. With Lyrics in front of me, I'll choose any given light string on a prop and tap away or try to use the beat Wizard with multiples of the tempo for the non lyric sections. Then I go back and massage the timings and include ramp ups and ramp downs to make transitions smoother. I have also found the  eye and ear really do not "sync" together and if you LEAD the music by 50ms or so, it looks better

I have also found some pretty slick shortcuts within Superstar, especially when doing RGB leaping Arches. Use the "Smooth Effect" tool with the Shockwave tab and play with the numbers and colors. I sequenced 4 arches last evening to Christmas Canon in about 90 minutes and from what I see with the visualizer, looks pretty good

I believe using LOR has some great potential in even more shortcuts if I can figure out all the information in the text files it stores the sequences in. 

Papagayo is too cumbersome for me and I use the Tapper wizard with the lyrics in front of me. I also found that you shouldn't try to get every word and every syllable. Far less work and if you stick with the basic phonemes and streamline them to your lip positions of your prop, the work load is greatly reduced

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I wish I could help, but this is only my second year with pixels and xLights and my first year with any songs.  Only this week did I choose 2 songs to sequence and haven't really done any work yet.  Yes, I'm stressed out!  Also just put in an order with Ray Wu this morning, so that's tight timing too!

Anyway, I assumed I would start with the tedious like you guys mentioned, then use a lot of copy and paste.  The songs are repetitious, why wouldn't the lights be repetitious too?  So sorry I wasn't much help, but certainly going to keep tuned to this thread in case there is something I can learn.  Good luck!

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Some sections may be repetitious, but change it with different hues. Try using beat wizard with different multiples of main beat frequency. Bear in mind that sometimes LESS is MORE, meaning you don't want to hit every beat

Have one set of strings at say detected beat, another at 2, 3X or ?

Are you using CTB16's or RGB's ?

Try Tapper WIZARD as well

 

 

 

 

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I try to get one complete set of lights done through a song rather than break it apart. I find I get a mind set or idea on what I want the 10 Mini Trees to do, for example or how I want the leaping arches or new RGB arches to look all the way through. I try to keep a "theme" going, using the Mega tree as the center of focus and use timings or color schema from that. What we really need, IMO, is a place to put all shortcuts or unpublished LOR secrets. I found, for example, by accident, how to do a fade down shimmer of RGB lights

John Storms is pretty good, I found that hints and YOUTUBES  on LOR tutorials and with SE, tutorials from Brian Bruderer are awesome

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