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Hello folks, I am very new to this and, to be fair, don't PLAN on getting too deep into lighting decor. However, I have a plan to light ONE tree. I would like to use LEDs that would allow me to leave this tree lit year round and change the colors depending on the holiday/season (aka have it change color to be a st patricks tree, Valentine's tree, etc). I can't seem to find a decent light set that will do this, though. So that would be my first request...any input offered from anyone's research would be great! 

Just to add one final, difficult spin to this relatively straight forward situation...the tree i want to light is about 400 ft from the nearest power outlet/wifi source.

I can't seem to figure out exactly what will go into running power that far for the  fairly small amount of lights I am looking to run. This also is why I have found my search for lights to be so difficult as I am also searching for a decent way to change the colors... By app? In which case, is the app worth while/dependable/etc? Do the lights require wifi to change color/run a schedule/etc? 

So....yeah, input from the experts would be great! 

Thanks! 

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Need more information.  Do you plan to light the branches or just the trunk? 

If it is to light the trunk, this could be a fairly easy solution but you would still need to run the 110V line 400 feet which I will leave to others.  You can use waterproof RGB strip lights that come with a controller and power supply.  No learning curve required.  The one I used for Christmas lights on the house is often called "dream lights" and have the designation IC 6803  which designates the IC built into the strip.   They come in packages with the waterproof light strip, controller, remote, and power supply.   You would need a waterproof box for the power supply and controller.  The rest can be exposed to the elements.    These have some very nice programs built into the controller.  You can also choose just one color.   The length of a strip is 15 M or 16.7 feet.  It's obvious that you would need more than one strip for a tree.  One controller will work two strips.  If you go beyond two strips it makes sense to run them from one larger power supply and have 2 or more controllers.   I just looked up a 240W power supply which would power eight 5M strips and it is only $24 postpaid.   In that case you should not include a power supply with the strip order.  

For a description look at this listing on eBay:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/Magic-Dream-Color-5M-6803-5050-Led-Strip-Fairy-Lights-133-Effects-RF-Remote-Lamp/262063598092?hash=item3d04352a0c:m:mxeBvOSYJq7H-sV3lGitPUw

 

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Welcome to planet Christmas.  I love your idea.  One thing I have discovered over the years is the affect  a tree's growth can have on light strings. I have a sycamore tree that was wrapped in lights for four years without any problems. on the other hand, I left different tree wrapped in LEDs for just a year,  and easily over half the strings were ruined because the tree's growth pulled them apart just enough, especially where the cords entered each light soccer.   I'd love to know if anyone else has ever experienced that problem.  Good luck and I hope everything works out.

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6 hours ago, Rich in Las Vegas said:

Need more information.  Do you plan to light the branches or just the trunk? 

If it is to light the trunk, this could be a fairly easy solution but you would still need to run the 110V line 400 feet which I will leave to others.  You can use waterproof RGB strip lights that come with a controller and power supply.  No learning curve required.  The one I used for Christmas lights on the house is often called "dream lights" and have the designation IC 6803  which designates the IC built into the strip.   They come in packages with the waterproof light strip, controller, remote, and power supply.   You would need a waterproof box for the power supply and controller.  The rest can be exposed to the elements.    These have some very nice programs built into the controller.  You can also choose just one color.   The length of a strip is 15 M or 16.7 feet.  It's obvious that you would need more than one strip for a tree.  One controller will work two strips.  If you go beyond two strips it makes sense to run them from one larger power supply and have 2 or more controllers.   I just looked up a 240W power supply which would power eight 5M strips and it is only $24 postpaid.   In that case you should not include a power supply with the strip order.  

For a description look at this listing on eBay:   https://www.ebay.com/itm/Magic-Dream-Color-5M-6803-5050-Led-Strip-Fairy-Lights-133-Effects-RF-Remote-Lamp/262063598092?hash=item3d04352a0c:m:mxeBvOSYJq7H-sV3lGitPUw

 

That product seems like a good idea. My only wonder is how near I would need to be to the control box in order to make changes...that may be something inwould need to dig into more as that posting didn't seem to say. 

I hadn't given a lot of thought into how much of the tree I was going to light until I saw \/ that reply... 

2 hours ago, slankard said:

Welcome to planet Christmas.  I love your idea.  One thing I have discovered over the years is the affect  a tree's growth can have on light strings. I have a sycamore tree that was wrapped in lights for four years without any problems. on the other hand, I left different tree wrapped in LEDs for just a year,  and easily over half the strings were ruined because the tree's growth pulled them apart just enough, especially where the cords entered each light soccer.   I'd love to know if anyone else has ever experienced that problem.  Good luck and I hope everything works out.

Excellent point... I don't know if that lends more or less credence to just focusing on lighting the trunk... 

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I doubt the small RF remote is good for more than 10 or 15 feet.  I mounted the lights on the fascia at then ends of the eves on the lower portion of a two story house.  I keep the power supply and controller in the garage and run a 4 wire  lead from the controller to the end of the strip.   The longest run for the 4 wire lead I used is about 30 feet.

This requires doing some elementary soldering to put connectors on the end of the wire lead.  I buy all of the parts from China so while it can take time to get here, the prices are very affordable.  If you decide this isn't too complex a task just PM me and I can supply sources on eBay. 

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The 6803 LED strips are much stronger than ordinary light strings.  The strip is encased in very tough plastic.   I'm on my fourth season of putting up the lights and taking them down with no damage to the strips.   I usually choose one of the 133 programs each night and only change it once a day.

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19 hours ago, Rich in Las Vegas said:

I doubt the small RF remote is good for more than 10 or 15 feet.....

Would I dare running something like that the same distance? 

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I think there is a misunderstanding.  The remote only turns the unit on and of plus selects  the program in the controller. There are buttons on the controller for the same functions- see picture below.  The controller stays at ground level.  You have to run the power and signal wire (shown in my second post) from the controller to the end of the LED strip in the tree.  You would keep the controller(s) next to the power supply at ground level.  The controller and power supply are not waterproof so must be in a waterproof box.  You would have to go from your house to near the tree to change programs with the remote.  The size of the controller is about 2" wide and 5 inches long.  

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On 9/25/2019 at 9:31 AM, Rich in Las Vegas said:

I think there is a misunderstanding.  The remote only turns the unit on and of plus selects  the program in the controller. There are buttons on the controller for the same functions- see picture below.  The controller stays at ground level.  You have to run the power and signal wire (shown in my second post) from the controller to the end of the LED strip in the tree.  You would keep the controller(s) next to the power supply at ground level.  The controller and power supply are not waterproof so must be in a waterproof box.  You would have to go from your house to near the tree to change programs with the remote.  The size of the controller is about 2" wide and 5 inches long.  

dream-light-controller.jpg

OH, yeah, I figured (hoped) I could run that further from the tree. Oh well. I guess if that is the only way to go, I may have to do it that way! 

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