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    1. After some discussions with a few interested people it appears there are a variety of issues that make this somewhat complicated as a pay-for-service solution.

      As such, we went back to the drawing board and have decided that we'll post the channel configuration and the pre-configured sequence grid in LOR S2. Then at the end of June, we'll select from any sequences submitted award up to four free Monster Quartet - a $145 value each. We'll follow up with additional details once we get them posted.

      Here are drawings of the four monsters I'm hoping to get sequenced:



      If you were talking about anatomical skull controlled with servos im your guy and do it for free but that does look complicated but i like to take a stab at it if ya want me to...I need a break from all the crap i have been putting up with lately and i enjoy halloween and do it up ever year...its just well bunch of gore instead of this kind of stuff but Tell me what your songs are and i will try and tackle it if ya want me too. I dont charge either so....Hope i can help some send pm or what not.

    2. Anybody else getting more and more annoyed with windows 7? I class it with win98 the biggest piece of garbage that existed! I have had more problems with this then windowsXP. There was nothing wrong with xp i never had any problems with it at all! Now windows7 uhhhh if i have to restart one more time and another hiccup and it hangs i going back. Anybody else having issuses? No i dont have virus or spyware or malware or trojans. Maybe its some kind of conflict or something but i just dont see why everybody was talking all this hype. The only thing i see good about it is when you hit window button and tab and scroll through windows. Then when you minimize a few windows like your browser then you go to reopen and then you have to click on b/c you mouse over then it pops back down....Its annoying. Maybe theres a setting somewhere but still. I try to bookmarks pages sometimes and it wont even do that. They say this is stable? I havent seen anything that is remotely close to being stable. AND i have had more issues with my network then EVER! I make calls and its on my end and it doesnt make sense. Windows xp i never had any issuse and i used for years. I dont get it whats the deal here am i the only one? Seems like too many bells and whistles and lost the point of "stable"

    3. One more thing i dunno what you paid for the wiper motor i hope you got for about 20 bucks tops. The ones that come out of a saturn can be had for a lil over 20 bucks and theres a site with all the wiring and everything. I didnt know if you knew or not but its the one people use mostly for props and such its cheap and easy wirng compared to flying blind like i did my first time. Neons motors are bizzare and expensive...i got mine free thank god but retail was running about 200 plus. http://www.scary-terry.com/wipmtr/wipmtr.htm Last time i checked its was about 20 some odd bucks but that was few years ago and well...prices go up. Hope some of that will help ya get everything up and running.

      EDIT on page two talks about speed control kits etc...might be what ya after

    4. Thanks for the quick responses guys!

      Right, my goal is only to slow it down (not do any ramping or reversing). A smaller wall-wart isn't a bad idea, I was just trying to do somethign slick (and I thought it would save me from trying to find a beefy wallwart), plus they only let the voltage get so low before the motor doesn't run anymore, so if I wanted it slower, I would have to PWM it, but it might be tough to do.

      I shouldn't need to move anything heavy. I am animating some stuffed animals, one will be raising/lowering his hand that has a cell phone in it (using a homemade cam attached to the wiper), and I also plan to use the same motor to turn another stuffed animals chair back and forth like he is turning slightly. A second motor will be used to rotate a dish antenna on the roof of the display. I will have the dish attached to a lazy susan setup, so it should turn easily (unless the wind is really moving).

      All these are the current plans, but I have never done anything like this before, so they might not work as well as I hoped in the end.

      How about for the stuffed animals use servos. Lynxmotion.com has a ssc32 servo controller board and servocity.com has everything plus some that you would need. Plus you can control the servo back and forth might make it easier when it comes to keeping the linkage from binding. I have ordered from them before and they are great people to do biz with. To control the servos use brookshire software. The board isnt stand alone though lynx has the walwarts and everything you would need. The board might need a adapter i dunno what comp you have but i have no serial ports so they have a adapter though kinda pricey. I just thought i throw those ideas out there. If you do go that route its easy enough i mean if i can do it how hard can it be?

    5. So your just trying to slow it down right? I use wiper motors for years now with halloween props and i just keep it very simple. Get a walwart with lower ratings. When i tried the ghost rocking chair that thing was jumping all over the place and fast! so i grabbed one that was weaker and it slowed it down to right where i wanted it and if your anything like me you have a ton of walwarts all over the place you just cant bring yourself to throw away lol I think i used a dimmer switch once also its just been so many years i dont remember on the dimmer swtich. Can i ask what your animating? Is is heavy? I was going to say old drill motors are perfect if you can get your linkage correct you can use a 120vac dimmer and they are pretty powerful so movement i would think wouldnt be a problem. The old drill i use has adjustable knob so dimmer i wouldnt need but i just zip tied the trigger down and bingo! Wiper motors are nice for light weight items but if your trying to really move something a bit drill better bet...and easier. Sounds complicated what ya doing i only understand slow down wiper motor other then that i wish i was more help.

    6. I still have the following for sale. Anyone interested?

      All controllers are Light-O-Rama and are 100% complete. These are NOT DIY.

      4- CTB16D 16 channel Lighting Controller Board with Heatsink in Rite Time controller boxes w/6' extension cords for each channel - $200.00 - Each

      Check them out. They are 100% completed and ready to plug in and put to work.


      2- ShowTime Pro LOR1602W 16 channel Lighting Controller - $225.00 - Each

      5- ShowTime Pro LOR800W 8 channel Lighting Controller - $185.00 - Each

      1- ShowTime Pro CTB16D 16 channel Lighting Controller Board with Heatsink - $190.00 - Each - New in Box

      1- ShowTime Pro CTB08D 8 channel Lighting Controller Board with Heatsink - $129.95 - Each - New in Box

      2- pairs of Easy Light Linkers - $200.00 each pair X 2 = $400.00 for both

      1- Smart DMX Interface - iDMX1000 - $225.00 - New in Box

      1 - SC485-RJ45 Serial Adapter $20.00 - New in Box

      3- Rite Time Controller Boxes - NEW - $40.00 -Each

      I also have the following LED's on order from Magic in the Sky that are pending arrival from China.

      36 Pure Winter White Mini Ice M5 Light Set 100 LED = $26.69 each

      24 Blitzen Blue Mini Ice M5 Light Set 100 LED = $23.37 each

      24 Grinch Green Mini Ice M5 Light Set 100 LED = $24.06 each - Out of Stock so you can't even get them this year.

      24 Rudolph Red Mini Ice M5 Light Set 100 LED = $19.11 each

      Commercial LED's from Creative Displays. Approx. 30 sets each of used Red, Blue and Green LED Net lights.

      Used red Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 15.00 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      Used green Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 18.00 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      Used blue Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 18.50 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      12 or less of each

      New red Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 19.00 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      New green Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 22.00 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      New blue Netlights Commercial Grade LED - $ 22.50 - These are 150 ct lights I think

      I have approx. 100 new 100ct multi mini's incandescent - Walmart @ $1.25 each

      I have 100 boxes of new blue 100 ct mini's incandescent @ $1.25 each

      I have probably a dozen or so clear and maybe a dozen or so blue. incandescent 100ct mini's. @$ .50 each

      I have dozens of used red, green, blue and clear incandescent net lights. @ $1.50 each

      I have 8 24" wreaths that have red, green and blue commercial led's on them as well as clear incandescents. $20.00 per wreath

      I have at least 50 green plastic flood light holders = $2.50


      I have the following wireframes from Walmart, Target, Home Depot and Lowes

      Moose - $25.00

      Skiiing Polar Bear - $25.00

      Standing Polar Bear - $25.00

      Santa - $25.00

      Snowman - $25.00

      Cow - $25.00

      Penguin - $25.00

      Philadelphia Eagle Hologram wireframe

      several reindeer - $25.00

      lighted gift bags and boxes that we used under our mega tree

      Wireframes from Lori's DLites


      5' wireframe star $75.00

      2' 3D Wire Frame star $50.00


      Wireframe reindeer and sleigh - $150.00

      7' wireframe snow man with round steel base - Nice - $125.00

      100's of plastic Mini light/C7/C9 light stakes - $0.25 each

      18 lighted gifts - $20.00 per set of 3. lighted gift bags and boxes that we used under our mega tree.

      Window Wizards -

      4 - Electrical hazard/warning signs - $15.00 per sign or $50.00 for all 4

      Donation Box - $25.00

      For the mini light stakes is that each or per hundred? or how ever many? I need a wad of them this year. NEED TO KNOW :) Sorry that display going down too...It is sad...

    7. Hey Guys and Gals,

      I purchased some spt2-18ga wire last year from that salvage site that was posted on the forum last year and the wire was a great deal but my regular vampire plugs from creative display for the normal spt2/18ga wire wont fit this wire. It has a much thicker jacket on it. Any suggestions???? Or where i can get the larger plugs to fit all this wire i purchased?

      Thanks so much for all of you on the forum. You all are the best and always try your best to help a fellow enthusiast.

      How about a wire stripper go the next guage or two up and strip some of the insualtion off like the top skin of it.

    8. I see taking breaks through out the year so you don't burn out, but I tend to keep on trucking. I agree with the earlier you get your songs done, the more time you have for you actual display. I do get some weird looks in the summer when I have the Christmas I am animating to, playing in my car.

      Just exactly like what knute said. Last night i was using tapper wizard fell asleep laying down on couch seq. with laptop on chest woke up few hours later and there i was finger still on mouse and all. I was startled at first and said WHAT!?? well i said a few more words but we leave that alone lol. Anytime you can and your are focused and theres nothing on tv is a GREAT TIME! Its a bunch of work but i wouldnt have a stroke over it or anything few minutes at a time. A wise man told me once its better to have a few songs perfect then 15 songs that look like crap so...so less is more :)

    9. I have pixel modules with a dms 705 chip and two 5050's(thousand of them) been seeing more failures lately than I would like and wondered if any kind souls would would offer up experience. Thanks in advance.

      Talking about leds right? Watch your voltage i have had more trouble then its worth at hween with leds. When there going great there great but when they fart out its dissapointing... I dont trust a led at all! My two cents there are still hit or miss regardless of how "great" and somone has perfected them your still going to have troubles. And welcome to the forum! Im no electronics wizard so i will let someone else tell ya the low down but like i said i rather eat glass then use leds.

    10. It still has too many buttons :P

      Thanks for your help though! Yeah, I'll call LOR and ask.


      I e-mailed LOR and am awaiting a reply.

      But UGH, I hate being away from my controllers!

      I won't be back in Nor-Cal until mid-June and all our equipment is up there.

      Anyway...I looked at the manuals and I don't think the input on the controller does what I want it to.

      I probably read it wrong. Wouldn't be the first time haha.

      Heres how i would do it i would call lor find out what the voltage comming out of ethernet cable and try and find a remote relay borad that fits the needs. I know its not what ya want to do but its a easier option MAYBE. Let me know what they say though i wouldnt mind a remote myself :) I wouldnt have to leave the couch CLICK! well until batteries went dead....Theres always a bottle neck...

    11. I don't have the unit in front of me but that sounds about right.

      Right now my biggest concern is finding the button. When I type in Infrared Remote all I get is TV remotes and multi-button units.

      I need something like a Garage Door opener and its receiver.

      Well theres this http://www.electronics123.com/s.nl/it.A/id.467/.f but it leaves more questions...like i said this is way over my head. Id call lor and ask them or atleast drop a email might be able to point ya in a better direction then i can. I wish i was more help but atleast its not a tv remote :)

    12. Hey folks!

      I want to connect an infrared receiver to my LOR1600W and use a button to trigger the show remotely.

      Problem is, I can't find this type of product.

      Anyone know where to get these?

      http://www.electronics123.com/ has some things of that nature but the stuff i have seen in the past are 12vdc. Not saying they dont have something that is 120volt i just wasnt looking for anything that was 120ac at the time. AND i have done biz with them a lot and never had a issue EVER! You can get caught up there so take it easy lol Theres lots of goodies over there :)

      A matter of fact i know they have some 120volt stuff i just cant remember the kit name.

    13. I feel your pain ya know those bayco rolls for extension cords well somehow it looked like a ball of yarn a tiger had gotten ahold of! I was straightening that mess out for what seemed like hours. Thank god it wasnt 1000 ft or i would of just hung it on the wall and throw darts at it :) I tell ya when things like that take place i take it personal like it did it on purpose. Its just going to take a lot of back and forths i wouldnt give up. Just do a little at a time while watching tv :)

    14. Remember though, i'm attaching a pulley to the pine tree so in theory...there is little tension on the tree. I would be running a 6" or so lag bolt into the tree to secure the pulley. The cable would then come down the tree to just a few feet from the bottom, where i would have a winch secured. The bottom of the pine is probably 2' across, so it's definately not going to snap at the bottom. The most i see happening is for the lag bolt to be pulled out of the tree.

      If your looking for me to say oh no worries it will be fine...well i cant do that so many varibles and im no cable expert and knute knows more then i will ever know when it comes to this. If ya think its a bad idea it usually is...if you cant find a flaw and nobody else can either its most likley a great idea. I just hate to say hey go that route and something goes bad and i feel horrible if you do go that route your on your own bud i just dont trust pines at all my neighbor has one i dodge like a bullet i can poke my finger in it it so rotten i hate pines and dopnt trust em...Its your call I ask knute hes seems to know about cable tensions and such and anchor points. All i can say now is i said my 2 cents and wish ya best of luck aand hope it works out perfect b/c i would really like to see 200 ft of shooting stars :)

    15. Not a chance would i ever attach anything not even a piece of cotton to a 60 ft pine. With the weather we have we dont have horrid wind and just a peaceful fart can make one fall aound here. If you said a cedar or oak or redwood id be on board pine no way. Let me tell you this you can take a stick tie it to a piece of rope throw up in the pine tree hang the top and pull and that booger will snap off! I have done it to top them b/c im afraid of heights and im not climbing one. Tension on a pine is like watching a rubber band to break its not if its when. Becareful with them pines.

    16. The spring would be a good option if it was designed right. I doubt the spring you have may not be strong enough. I would worry with wind, the force would actually cause it to break. As for the cable, you will need tremendous force to get 200' with no sag.

      Something like a coil spring from a old dodge truck? :)

      Edit or a modified leaf springs

    17. The stars weigh next to nothing. So what do you suggest? I originally thought about using rope, but i want to eliminate any sag. That's when i decided to use aircraft cable, and a co-worker gave me 500' of 3/16! If i use a winch, that should take out most of the sag correct?

      What kind of tree is it and how far up the tree is the cable going to be? Safety is a concern with cable if something snaps and that cable comes screaming down from 60 ft and hits something under tension its not going to be pretty. Thats quite some weight at 200 ft length. I would rather see rope since the stars weigh nothing maybe a clothes line rope(what they have isnt clothes line rope b/c its thicker) i tighten my neighbors and loosen it all the time when doing yard work and its easy enough its light weight holds a load and if its snaps its not a wild metal snake and when i tighten it it holds and doesnt sag with wet clothes so...Might be a idea to think about. I think their run is about 75-80 ft so its not that crazy of a idea if stars light enough.

    18. Im with knute theres a lot of varibles on this one. First how fast are the winds,weight of stars, etc....One thing i would be most worried about is the spring its a great shock absorber sure and it sounds great on paper but when a tree pulls and the spring streches out its gonna sag or if the spring streches until it pops off anchor point on pole. Its just one them things i think the spring is great idea but if you know the winds and gonna get jacked up release tension on cable and put back up when its over. Just my two cents

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