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  1. The .10 cents addition for dimable bulbs are for the C7 and C9s per bulb.
  2. I think it would and it would also throw your timing off. Paul said his had a delay of 1-2 seconds with the LED strobes before they come on and the flash rate is less then Darryl's. So if you mixed them you could have problems with timing.
  3. I agree, I am a little skeptical as well as 1-2 days on LOR isn't really enough time to burn them in enough to get an accurate account if these will work. What kind of testing have these gone through and how long were they tested for constantly. I know with other companies they worked well for a couple of days, but once they were burned in they started seeing failures. If we can get some test results like a few hours of them in use dimming constantly, as well as twinkle, shimmer at a constant rate for a constant amount of time without failure then I will be in because I highly need some LED C9s to do what I am needing next year to save me money on other areas and be confidant in making a purchase. I am like Scott, I would hate to spend this much on them for them to fail a week into use.
  4. Very true, watts are the electric power consumed, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are less bright or the intensity isn't has much as a 5 watt incandescent just because they are a 1 watt LED. That is what I am concerned with. Are these LED strobes as bright as the 5 watt strobes? If you can get the same lumens out of a 1 watt LED strobe as you can with a 5 watt incandescent strobe then the money is well spent and they have some value. I run 50 of Darryl's strobes in my tree but that is only consuming 2 amps total for them all, but those amps are figured if all are on and they are bright. I would like to add some to my bushes, house, lawn. So if these LED strobes can compare then I will purchase those, otherwise I will stay to what is proven for me. Condensation is not a problem for me.
  5. If you are going to be using this outdoors which I am assuming you are, the hazer might not be the best route because you have to contend with the weather, which in this case is wind. The haze is so thin and light winds these days will carry it right off. One other thing you need to keep in mind is the hazer works non stop so you are pulling a constant draw of power. I would go with a good 1200w fogger with some Froggys Swamp Juice. Good thing about the foggers is the foger is only pulling it's max wattage during warm up and heat cycles, during standby or while the pump is pumping you are only drawing less then have an amp, where with a hazer you would be pulling 7 amps constantly. Yes with the 1200w fogger at full cycle it would be 10 amps but that is only at 7 mins or less at a time, where with a hazer it is 7 amps constantly. As far as regulation of how fair you need to be from an airport or flight path, I don't know the answer to that. Just keep this in mind, if these do go in the air, even though you can't see it in the sky, you can still see them from the air. Mike is absolutely correct about them causing night blindness. FBI and FAA takes it very seriously. I know this sounds funny, but the person that regulates lasers and lasers used in shows is the FDA. They would be the best people to contact in finding the answers about using lasers outside in a show.
  6. Yea I guess price wise they would be cheaper, but is it one of those cases where you get what you pay for? Are these going to be as bright as the 5 watts? I think I remember reading the strobes having 10 LEDs per strobe. The LEDs make up in the power savings, but are they going to make up in intensity are these going be on the same level of a 5 watt strobe? If so then they would definitely be worth it. I know for me power draw isn't all that much of a issue for me since even at 5 watts with 50 strobes they are not all on at the same time and are only on for a few seconds at any given time. My biggest concern is the intensity and performance of the strobe.
  7. I have 10 mini trees across 10 channels. 5 red and 5 green.... I think I might need more though. They span the front of my yard from end to end, but there is about 2-3' between each tree.
  8. I also read they were 2-3 seconds, but I also think I remember reading they were only 1 watt compared to Darryls which I think are 7 or 15 watts? So I am also curious with the last post about the brightness and the cost of these. I think the price was listed but overlooked it, but I am not sure this would be one of those cases were LED wouldn't be cheaper since they are on just for a short time.
  9. Huh? I am sorry but that really doesn't make sense? If you are only going to sell them by the case and/or per 100 there would be no need to put the pre-sale and normal season price per bulb both. If they are there for comparison, then wouldn't it make more sense to just to put the pre-sale and normal season price by the case or per 100 so there isn't any confusion? I know if I only needed 25-50 bulbs (which I don't, just saying) and I was forced to buy them by the 100s I think I would look at other options. That would mean for Paul that is lost sales and I don't think that is what he wants. Paul, can you clear this up, can you buy them individually? Another example is if I just needed to buy replacements to fix some bulbs that were out and if I had to buy 100 just to get 10 I would look at other options. IMO, I don't think he would force you buy by the lot. I think if you buy them by the case and/or per 100 you get a price back where if you bought them in broken cases or individual you will pay a little more. That is how I understand it and what I would do.
  10. But that is pre-order pricing. If you are like me I don't think everyone is going to be able to take part in the pre order sale so close after Christmas. So otherwise they don't come out to .43 cents. On a marketing standpoint I don't know why you would want to run a pre-order sale so close to after Christmas. I understand it is probably necessary in order to get the product in by a certain time, but lets be honest, on stuff like the C9s and other stuff you won't need it until early summer if even that early. I know some might need M5's to build arches, mini trees, mega tree strings, etc. But even then the shipment from what Paul said won't ship until June. I think that is why LORs sale is so popular because it is in the middle of summer after people have recovered from Christmas. At the least I think Paul should extend the pre-sale to the end of Feb so those that are getting a tax refund could spend that on lights if they want to.
  11. Yea same here, they open at 6 am here but I have seen others around town open at 12 am, but the sales won't start until 6 am.
  12. There is no telling what the criteria is, but this is what YouTube and MySpace are using to suspend the videos and check for copyright. Logan pointed this out in another thread..... http://www.audiblemagic.com/index.asp I think if we can find out how they are scanning then we can probably find a way around it, but I doubt whatever method we use they will catch up to it. So I doubt using a category like pets would work because they are probably scanning everything and are probably hip to it. Also I don't know how the search works for YouTube but if you were to use it under a different category your videos might not be seen by your target audience. So unless you just use YouTube to host your videos to embed on your web page they probably won't be seen otherwise by listing them under a different catagory. What you have to keep in mind is this is not just happening to Christmas displays. So decorators are not being singled out. This started back in at least June and everyone is getting targeted. I had a friend who had her video taken down on MySpace which uses the same company and they are doing the same thing. She had a 3 second clip of music playing from Baby Enstein in the background from a radio that was recorded not on purpose and they suspended her video too. This lady had a similar thing happen and she filed a lawsuit again them. http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14850.cfm This pretty much covers all the major labels, and if you don't see a label covered on this list it is probably a subsidary of the major label or covered by EMI. If ASCAP jumps on board we are really jacked up.... http://audiblemagic.com/clients-partners/registration.asp
  13. According to the price list I was under the impression you can order single bulbs, otherwise why would it list the pricing per bulb? I thought the per 100 is a price break if you order them in lots of 100?
  14. I am doing something similar to that as well now, but with only two wires, but they are inside the base. I like them on the inside instead of around the tree with the strings, but I bet that would look good too. So they go from the top to the ground on the inside. I was thinking about adding 1 more making 3 total. I don't know if i wanted to snake them back and forth of straight down on each wire like they are now. I have seen a lot of people whose trees look full of strobes and was curious if they were doing anything different then what I am doing.
  15. William, The first column is the pre-sale price per bulb. The second column is the regular price after the pre-sale per bulb. The last column is the price per every 100 bulbs. I.E. if you bought them in lots of 100. If you want dimable bulbs add 10 cents to each bulb. Now I am curious if you add 10 cents for dimable bulbs, what does that make it per 100? C-9LEDR RED $ 0.80 $ 1 .25 $ 80.00 C-9LEDO ORANGE $ 0.80 $ 1 .25 $ 80.00 C-9LEDY YELLOW $ 0.80 $ 1 .25 $ 80.00 C-9LEDB BLUE $ 0.90 $ 1 .25 $ 90.00 C-9LEDG GREEN $ 0.90 $ 1 .25 $ 90.00 C-9LEDP PURPLE $ 1.00 $ 1 .40 $ 100.00 C-9LEDCW COOL WHITE $ 0.95 $ 1 .40 $ 95.00 C-9LEDWW WARM WHITE $ 0.95 $ 1 .40 $ 95.00 C-9LEDSW SUN WHITE $ 1.00 $ 1 .40 $ 100.00 C-9LEDFCC FAST CHANGE $ 1.00 $ 1 .40 $ 100.00 C-9LEDSCC SLOW CHANGE $ 1.00 $ 1 .40 $ 100.00
  16. Ok thanks for clearing that up. I am defiantly going to be placing an order. I am just not going to be able to do it until spring or so. Jan 31st is just to close to after Christmas to be able to drop $500 on replacement bulbs....LoL Is there any kind of price break after the pre sale if you place a large bulk order? I an going to be needing 400 Sun White C9 bulbs. You can PM if you need to. My entire upgrade for 2009 and what I want to do is based about changing my C9s out with the LED C9 so I am definately going to be buying.
  17. So does this mean if we can't do the pre-order by Jan 31st we won't be able to order for 2009?
  18. I don't see what that is going to prove when this thread has 1,076 views and 56 replies. One or two people say they weren't under the assumption isn't going to speak for others. Not to mention nor do they care to reply to such non sense otherwise. So I am not sure what you are trying to prove or why you even care. This poor guy is getting reamed over the coals and I was just making a statement that suggests he was not looking to sell this or make any money off it then I get questioned for my comment and opinion.
  19. Great thanks, looks like I am wanting the Sun color. Can we confirm that these will work with all LOR effects? Fade, dim, twinkle, shimmer, etc?
  20. I made that up? You are kidding me right? Like I said read between the lines. No one flat out came out and said it, but they made the ASSUMPTION that is what he was wanting to do with them. That is why I said, read between the lines. I know you have enough intelligence to pick up on that. (BTW, I didn't come out an say it, but in between the lines, I was saying you are not stupid in case you missed that like you missed the assumptions.) No kidding? Which is why I made the comment I made because people were under the ASSUMPTION he was wanting to sell these. I don't know how you wold be undermining someone by building your own board or how building your own board that people do all the time is illegal. Would you mind explaining that to me? We are talking about hardware, not firmware, software or anything along those lines. The guy is interested in animated lighting and wants to save some bucks by making a board on his own that is a copy of a very popular and well known piece of hardware, and people jump on him because of there relationship with LOR. The guy is probably not educated to what all is available to him in the animated lighting world. No need to knock him for that.
  21. You must have over looked this one that suggests it.... http://forums.planetchristmas.com/showpost.php?p=281778&postcount=5 Then there is this one to talking about it is illegal.... http://forums.planetchristmas.com/showpost.php?p=281778&postcount=10 What is illegal about trying to save some money by building a board similar to LOR that is for personal use and not to sell it and make money. Would you like me to point out some others for you?
  22. I am curious how everyone is mounting their strobes inside their tree. I would like to know if I am maximizing the effect of my strobes. I have 2 guy wires inside the dia. of the base that is just used for strobes, not for stability. I run one on each side of the tree, I.E. left and right. Then I just zip tie the C9 strand at the top and bottom. Then just clip the lights onto the guy wire. Only problem with this is the effect is only to the left and right. What I was thinking about doing next year is adding a guy wire to the front in addition to the left and right then weave the C9 strand from left to right across the front guy wire so it looks more full. How is everyone else hanging their strobes inside their tree? Pics would be great if you have them.
  23. I am really serious about changing out all my C9s for 2009 as it would save me from having to buy more controllers and of course save on power. Just so we are clear before I dish out $500 to replace my C9s. Will these in fact work with LOR and all the effects LOR does, dim, fade, shimmer, twinkle etc? Second, in the picture below with the 3 lights on the right that are clear. Which is which? Of the 3 clear or white lights I like the middle one. I guess you can say the 2nd one from the right. What is the actual color of that, would that be warm white?
  24. Go read some of the threads in the first 2 pages.
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